Trade Rumors Involving the Jazz

[The Jazz Wonderbra]

I just don't see the Lakers budging on their desire to keep their draft assets in house for a deal that doesn't put them anywhere near contending.

They can't stretch the floor. Westbrook is cancer. They have enough talent at the top, but need supporting players. Role players.

Conley, JC, and Gay bring a ton of experience and scoring to surround around Lebron and AD. I think they are instantly better. If they went on a 10 - 4 run they are what, 4th seed? And feeling momentum.

 

[YoungJefe]

They can't stretch the floor. Westbrook is cancer. They have enough talent at the top, but need supporting players. Role players.

Conley, JC, and Gay bring a ton of experience and scoring to surround around Lebron and AD. I think they are instantly better. If they went on a 10 - 4 run they are what, 4th seed? And feeling momentum.

They have their issues but I just don't see them being willing to include their 2027/2029 1sts when they've been hell bent about keeping those picks since last summer. Especially not in a move that doesn't make them the favorite in the West. They were hesitant to include draft capital in a Kyrie Irving deal. I think the writing is on the wall for them, they know LeBron won't be there much longer and don't want to leverage future assets for a team that isn't a move away from contenting.

 

[KqWIN]

I'm not worried about JC walking for nothing. He will want to make 20M+ on his next deal. The teams with cap space are pretty awful and I don't see Orlando or Indiana making a big offer for him. So if he wants to get somewhere he wants to be... he'd need to work with us on a sign and trade. The return may not be ideal but I'm not super worried about it.

I'd put JC in a deal with the Lakers though... I think if you look at the production its actually a really good value for them. You are right maybe some of the pivot on the Lakers end is us being more willing to put him in a deal. I could see him being very happy there.

I'd rather have a Lakers pick than JC on a new deal tbh.

 

[The Jazz Wonderbra]

Thinking out loud a bit... I have thought we are too good to tank even with a trade of Malik/Vando... but I think trading JC to LA would leave a void that would send us down the standings.

I guess since I'm team tank I probably have to grit my teeth and do it. Then in FA we make a big offer to JC that LA has to match and stick it to them.

HH, There are 30 games left. It's not like we have tanked the whole season. The league is closely yoked. A 5 game losing streak is the difference between a top 20 pick and a top 8 pick right now. A 10 game losing streak fetches you a 35% chance of a top 3 pick. We can suffer 10 games and get that reward!!! Don't overthink it. You won't remember 10 games. You will remember the Kings losing for 16 years. This is a no brainer.

JC is great but has his flaws. Cash out. Change the chemistry. Test for 30. Jiggle the balls!

 

[The Jazz Wonderbra]

They have their issues but I just don't see them being willing to include their 2027/2029 1sts when they've been hell bent about keeping those picks since last summer. Especially not in a move that doesn't make them the favorite in the West. They were hesitant to include draft capital in a Kyrie Irving deal. I think the writing is on the wall for them, they know LeBron won't be there much longer and don't want to leverage future assets for a team that isn't a move away from contenting.

I am happy with 1 of those picks so long as it is unprotected. We have had our fun season. Now let's get real about the picks. A nice 8 - 28 finish for the picks! All close games too.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Oh man... I just cooked up the tankiest of tank trades ever... like the type of **** that would make Presti blush....

We make the Westbrook deal a three teamer and send Russ to Miami for Lowry and Duncan... they cleanse the cap and we get even more assets from them...

I don't like it cuz I'd like to start building a real team this summer and not a collection of contracts and players that just kinda make is work. Was just a thought.

 

[Elizah Huge]

We discussed so many Westbrook trades over the summer that I don’t really have the energy to go in depth about it much more. We should definitely look into it though.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

HH, There are 30 games left. It's not like we have tanked the whole season. The league is closely yoked. A 5 game losing streak is the difference between a top 20 pick and a top 8 pick right now. A 10 game losing streak fetches you a 35% chance of a top 3 pick. We can suffer 10 games and get that reward!!! Don't overthink it. You won't remember 10 games. You will remember the Kings losing for 16 years. This is a no brainer.

JC is great but has his flaws. Cash out. Change the chemistry. Test for 30. Jiggle the balls!

Bro... you are preaching to the choir. I just thought the quick turnaround next year is predicated on keeping JC/Lauri/Walker... didn't think a Mike/KO/Malik trade would make us bad enough to drop the 5 or so extra games we need to. JC on the other hand is a bigger hole to fill. I'm completely cool with 30 games of shenanigans and pain to give us a chance.

Fine... push the button.

 

[YoungJefe]

I am happy with 1 of those picks so long as it is unprotected. We have had our fun season. Now let's get real about the picks. A nice 8 - 28 finish for the picks! All close games too.

They're going to give up an unprotected first for a move that doesn't move the needle in terms of their championship aspirations this season and gives them significantly less flexibility this offseason? lol

 

[HeatCheck]

Thinking out loud a bit... I have thought we are too good to tank even with a trade of Malik/Vando... but I think trading JC to LA would leave a void that would send us down the standings.

I guess since I'm team tank I probably have to grit my teeth and do it. Then in FA we make a big offer to JC that LA has to match and stick it to them.

What a boss move if they can rent out JC to the Lakers for their "playoff run" and then re-sign him in FA. I'd definitely be interested in either Max Christie or Austin Reaves from the Lakers too.
With that said highly doubt JC would want to leave LA again if he's traded back there. LA county is home to the biggest concentrated population of Filipinos outside of Manila.

 

[YoungJefe]

I love how we're discussing moves for the Lakers playoff run when they're currently 12th in the West.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

And you know how Silver was super anti-tank... do you think we hear a peep from him if we help the Lakers? Look at that totally corny ref apology soliloquy they wrote for Lebron the other night. We won't catch one ounce of flack.