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Trade Rumors Involving the Jazz

Saint Cy of JFC said:
Quin being super noncommittal in his exit interview tells me things might not be super peachy between him and Don. Don might be holding everyone hostage on his whims.
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I get that vibe... even before the press conference.
 
LoPo said:
If you can show me an offensively limited center over 30 years old worth $40 million in the history of the league, and I'll show you some oceanfront property in Kansas.
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I know he's very obscure and there's no reason for a Jazz Fan to have heard of him, but some guy named Mark Eaton was still getting over 3.5 blocks per game at the age of 32.

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NUMBERICA said:
Whooo the **** cares where he wants to go (if it’s not the place willing to dole out the biggest trade package).
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Yet another reason Donovan’s value almost certainly decreases with time is that the shorter the remaining time on his contract is, the more leverage he has in choosing a destination (from the “I won’t re-sign/extend with *team x*” angle), which depresses the number of teams bidding and competition, and which likely depresses the top bid.
 

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Here is maybe the main reason to trade Donovan now vs. a year from now... a 14% chance at this guy. Say you swipe an unprotected pick from the Knicks or some other team for Rudy and Donovan and it gives you a few more percentage chances at it.

To win at the highest levels you need top 5 or top 10 players. Those players are almost always found at the top of the draft. Give yourself as many chances as you can to getting one of those guys.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Quin being super noncommittal in his exit interview tells me things might not be super peachy between him and Don. Don might be holding everyone hostage on his whims.
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I want to say that there was an article saying that Quin declined an extension with the Jazz. Can anyone else corroborate or am I making things up? Either way…he’s on a one year deal and coaches do not coach on one year deals.

I don’t think he has a problem with Don, I think he just realize the change in the organization and that everyone is going to leave anyways. When new ownership comes in the incumbent coach is almost always on the hot seat. The people making decisions did not decide to hire Quin even if they want him back now.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:

View: https://twitter.com/Mike_Schmitz/status/1522963610917502978



Here is maybe the main reason to trade Donovan now vs. a year from now... a 14% chance at this guy. Say you swipe an unprotected pick from the Knicks or some other team for Rudy and Donovan and it gives you a few more percentage chances at it.

To win at the highest levels you need top 5 or top 10 players. Those players are almost always found at the top of the draft. Give yourself as many chances as you can to getting one of those guys.
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Zeroing in on a single player, who you have a maximum of 14% chance of getting, when the alternative is the same opportunity a year later is not the most compelling argument.

Tanking now versus later does not give you more or less opportunities, so that last point is completely moot.
 
I've heard interest from the Warriors something to the tune of Wiggins, Wiseman, Moody, and potential picks for Rudy. I dunno if the Warriors would do that and say they win it all but if that was an offer, I think that is potentially the best of the lot. It's unlikely they give up Kuminga, he is crazy talented for a 19-year-old.

The other question is, would ownership have the stomach to trade him to the Warriors already with Steph, Klay, Poole, and Draymond? Might go into the fetal position for the first Warriors/Jazz game next year.
 
KqWIN said:
Zeroing in on a single player, who you have a maximum of 14% chance of getting, when the alternative is the same opportunity a year later is not the most compelling argument.

Tanking now versus later does not give you more or less opportunities, so that last point is completely moot.
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Not every draft has a Duncan... Lebron... Luka... Joel... or even an AD. I believe Schmitz here... this is a generational talent. Not a can't miss guy because injuries come for everyone. So I don't believe the opportunity is the same. Winning the lotto in 2013 draft isn't the same as winning it in the 2018 or 2019 draft. If Memphis waits one more year to tear it down do they have JJJ and Ja right now? What about if Boston decided to hold onto KG and Paul Pierce for another run? Timing matters.

14% is better odds than this team ever had at winning a title imo. If you believe you are going to tear the whole thing down in 12 months you may as well get a crack at the best prospect that may come in the next few years.
 
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