Trade Rumors Involving the Jazz

[KqWIN]

One Lakers unprotected pick in 27 or 29 should be valued at about 2.5-3 protected firsts. Russ is viewed as a negative contract but for us that giant cap cleaning contract leaves us in a pretty great spot to add more later.

I had totally given up on this type of scenario... so of course another rumor pops up. Imma pretend I didn't see it.

Your first point is why I thought it was so hard to get done in the first place. Expiring salary and 5-6 first round picks is a hell of a package.

I still think it will be difficult to get both. But one pick is maybe doable? If we can toss Rudy Gay in there, it's a nice bonus. I'd be willing to give up Conley/Clarkson/Gay for one of those picks.

In some kind of bizzaro world, I would not mind watching the Jazz run out the last 30 games starting WB/Ochai in the backcourt lol.

 

[LogGrad98]

there will not... and you are wrong. Lakers drafted in the top 2 like 3 out of 4 years. They were turned down by a **** ton of dudes. Even last year they gave up a top 10 pick. Without Lebron the Lakers are the west coast Knicks.

We don't have to pretend these things could happen... just literally look back a few years. They are not big spenders, would have no draft assets... they'd have a clogged cap. Their current stars are going to be finished at that point. Those picks are among the most bankable in the league. Why wouldn't ownership just send them out ages ago? They know how good those picks could be... that's why.

FA is not as awesome as it used to be... teams lock into guys more and more through extensions.

Time will tell, won't it. History tends to repeat itself.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Your first point is why I thought it was so hard to get done in the first place. Expiring salary and 5-6 first round picks is a hell of a package.

I still think it will be difficult to get both. But one pick is maybe doable? If we can toss Rudy Gay in there, it's a nice bonus. I'd be willing to give up Conley/Clarkson/Gay for one of those picks.

In some kind of bizzaro world, I would not mind watching the Jazz run out the last 30 games starting WB/Ochai in the backcourt lol.

JC is the one I'd like to keep if possible if we are getting only one pick. If they will give two they can take the combo they want.

Another thing that makes a trade more possible right now is they can put the pick they own this year in a swap... now NO and LA are in the same relative spot... so swapping the Philly pick with the worse of the NO or LA pick might be pretty nice. So if its JC and we get one pick plus a swap... I could get down with that.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Time will tell, won't it. History tends to repeat itself.

As Kobe faded they had 4 years where they failed to break the 27 win plateau. Even after getting Lebron they were still mid 30s in wins. I would feel pretty safe thinking that story could repeat... and they won't have the picks to reload.

 

[LogGrad98]

As Kobe faded they had 4 years where they failed to break the 27 win plateau. Even after getting Lebron they were still mid 30s in wins. I would feel pretty safe thinking that story could repeat... and they won't have the picks to reload.

....and added another ring in the mix. On top of adding the top talent maybe the NBA has ever known. They botched the team around him, but he still went. There will always be players that want to play in LA.

 

[YoungJefe]

there will not... and you are wrong. Lakers drafted in the top 2 like 3 out of 4 years. They were turned down by a **** ton of dudes. Even last year they gave up a top 10 pick. Without Lebron the Lakers are the west coast Knicks.

We don't have to pretend these things could happen... just literally look back a few years. They are not big spenders, would have no draft assets... they'd have a clogged cap. Their current stars are going to be finished at that point. Those picks are among the most bankable in the league. Why wouldn't ownership just send them out ages ago? They know how good those picks could be... that's why.

FA is not as awesome as it used to be... teams lock into guys more and more through extensions.

Everyone paints the Lakers as the free agent destination but they whiffed on basically every big FA in between Shaq/LeBron.

 

[YoungJefe]

....and added another ring in the mix. On top of adding the top talent maybe the NBA has ever known. They botched the team around him, but he still went. There will always be players that want to play in LA.

I think the main reason LeBron signed there was because he recognized they had the young talent to make a move for another star player, just like when he returned to Cleveland.

 

[KqWIN]

JC is the one I'd like to keep if possible if we are getting only one pick. If they will give two they can take the combo they want.

Another thing that makes a trade more possible right now is they can put the pick they own this year in a swap... now NO and LA are in the same relative spot... so swapping the Philly pick with the worse of the NO or LA pick might be pretty nice. So if its JC and we get one pick plus a swap... I could get down with that.

I'd love to keep JC, but you know LeBron and the Lakers would love to have JC as well. If it comes down to it and Conley/JC/Gay for WB and one first is the only deal they take I'd still do it.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

My current prediction...

Vando goes to Portland for stuff

Beasley goes to NY for Fournier and a pick (protected)

Lakers almost do so many trades but end up doing something very minor that Pelinka sells as their top priority.

Raps stand pat and wait for the lotto results to decide what to do.

John Collins retires a Hawk.

Minny trades Naz which leads to their ultimate demise.

It will be a boring *** deadline but lots of almost deals.

 

[LogGrad98]

I think the main reason LeBron signed there was because he recognized they had the young talent to make a move for another star player, just like when he returned to Cleveland.

He went there with the assurance they would go after AD, but no guarantees. He could have walked into an untenable situation, but he still went. Lots of questions when he went, until they gutted the team to bring in AD. He wanted to play in LA. That is the crux of it. That is where legacies are made. You better believe that in his legacy the championship that will come up first will be the one in LA.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I'd love to keep JC, but you know LeBron and the Lakers would love to have JC as well. If it comes down to it and Conley/JC/Gay for WB and one first is the only deal they take I'd still do it.

Probably have to I guess... but I'd lobby hard for a swap and keep Gay if we had to in that scenario.

 

[YoungJefe]

He went there with the assurance they would go after AD, but no guarantees. He could have walked into an untenable situation, but he still went. Lots of questions when he went, until they gutted the team to bring in AD. He wanted to play in LA. That is the crux of it. That is where legacies are made. You better believe that in his legacy the championship that will come up first will be the one in LA.

The bubble championship means more for his legacy then him returning to Cleveland and bringing his hometown their first championship ever? lol
Against one of the greatest teams ever in the 73-9 Warriors. Beating Herro in the bubble means more???