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Trump and Putin in Helsinki

Siro said:
I'm afraid the Democrats will run on a "tough on Russia" warmongering platform come next presidential election. That'd be a really unfortunate turn of events.
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They have to run on Trump weakness. If they paint him as Vito Corleone, that only energizes his base.
 
Siro said:
I'm afraid the Democrats will run on a "tough on Russia" warmongering platform come next presidential election. That'd be a really unfortunate turn of events.
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I really don't think the Democrats are going to turn into a bunch of sabre rattling hawks. There's an ocean of space between being best friends with Putin (at the expense of our NATO and EU allies) and pushing for a 'hot' war with Russia. I'm sure the Democrats and others outside the Trump cult will stake out a position somewhere in between.
 
idestroyedthetoilet said:
Some of us don't sit around pathetically waiting with baited baited breath for another thing to cry on jazzfanz about. Tell me, do you (and Red) find that a fulfilling life?
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I'm not crying. I'm following a moment in history. That is pretty fulfilling, I love history. And you seem to be simply trolling. There have been several Trump threads on Jazzfanz, and this is a singular moment in that presidency. Dont look now, but Trump is a focal point of conversation well beyond the borders of this forum. This particular event was kinda hard to miss, guy. Wake up.
 
So.. Trump didn't do anything illegal but people around him left right and center are getting jailed?

How is that legal?

Did Trump just sit in a room and nodded his head and people around him knew exactly what he meant and ordered to do?
 
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All these Republicans who are not happy with Trump's comments must have accidentally turned on CNN instead of Fox. No way to ever be unhappy with the greatest President ever unless the left-wing media lies to you and tells you Trump isn't amazing.
 
Interesting changes were made to the transcript of the joint Trump/Putin press conference. Recall this point blank question directed at Putin by an American reporter: “President Putin, did you want President Trump to win the election and did you direct any of your officials to help him do that?” And Putin's reply: “Yes, I did. Yes, I did. Because he talked about bringing the U.S.-Russia relationship back to normal.”

This was a bit confusing because people were not sure if he was answering "yes" to both portions of the question.

So, what's curious is, in the Russian released transcript, the question and answer is omitted altogether. And, in the White House released transcript, only the second part of the question is included, but it is cobbled on to the previous answer by Putin, where he was talking about the Mueller probe.

So, in both the official Russian and official White House versions of the transcript, this key question and answer from the press conference has been erased in one case(Russians), altered in meaning in the second case(White House):

https://www.theatlantic.com/interna...ump-putin-press-conference-transcript/565385/

Not sure how much of this is intentional alteration of the historical record, if any. Although it's a safe bet the Russians erased all of it from their transcript. Fortunately, the entire press conference is preserved for posterity, and historians, at least, to judge....
 
Red said:
Interesting changes were made to the transcript of the joint Trump/Putin press conference. Recall this point blank question directed at Putin by an American reporter: “President Putin, did you want President Trump to win the election and did you direct any of your officials to help him do that?” And Putin's reply: “Yes, I did. Yes, I did. Because he talked about bringing the U.S.-Russia relationship back to normal.”

This was a bit confusing because people were not sure if he was answering "yes" to both portions of the question.

So, what's curious is, in the Russian released transcript, the question and answer is omitted altogether. And, in the White House released transcript, only the second part of the question is included, but it is cobbled on to the previous answer by Putin, where he was talking about the Mueller probe.

So, in both the official Russian and official White House versions of the transcript, this key question and answer from the press conference has been erased in one case(Russians), altered in meaning in the second case(White House):

https://www.theatlantic.com/interna...ump-putin-press-conference-transcript/565385/

Not sure how much of this is intentional alteration of the historical record, if any. Although it's a safe bet the Russians erased all of it from their transcript. Fortunately, the entire press conference is preserved for posterity, and historians, at least, to judge....
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I hate it when reporters say "And the second question is ..."

It makes it that much more confusing for people to answer. The question isn't focussed anymore and neither is the answer. Even the listener loses concentration half way through. The reporter in turn doesn't get the answer he wants nor the clarity.

Lose/Lose/Lose.
 
elan_prodigy said:
Lol. I couldn't get through a simple simulation that was meant to be something fun without you being a total tool. What makes you think Im going to try and explain this to you? Haha
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You got proved wrong about the simulation and got testy. So, no you did not explain a simple simulation. You clearly didnt understand it.

The same thing applies here, its obvious that its something you dont understand and cant explain. I didnt really want an explanation just wanted to point out a silly statement from you. You are trying to sound superior to everyone else.

No one, including you and I, knows the purpose and goals of all the media. The media is way to broad to pretend to understand those things for all of it.
 
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