Utah Jazz Players in the FIBA World Cup(in China)

[NUMBERICA]

No but they are trying to post him up. LOL Has gotten 2 and 1s from it.

End of Q2. Gobert has 8/4/2/1 statline 3/3 from the field. 2/4 from FT.

edit: start of Q3... Collet is doing the exact same thing he did last time - he's not starting his starters in the second half. He's weird...

Gobert back in the game with 4 mins to go in Q3.

Gobert scores on yet another post up. They are letting him establish deep position and feeding him the ball against smaller defenders. He's not missed yet. 3/3 on those postups.

I would like Gobert to be good enough in the post to punish a mismatch on a switch, so this is awesome news even if these players aren’t NBA-caliber centers (because I wouldn’t want him looking for that shot against one).

 

[JazzyFresh]

Uhhhh nearly nobody posts up dude. Most inefficient offense

Rudy is gonna ave 18 without any of this post up rubbish. Just by doing what he is elite at but now with space to move

I'm going to have to agree to disagree. I think Rudys next step is learning how to create for himself on offense. The guy is 7'2", imagine the luxury to be able to throw down to him when we are struggling and get an easy shot. Embiid makes a killing off of it, so did Booze and Malone. He's more than capable as he has the tools and he's done it before, he's just not comfortable with it. He gets comfortable with it, it only adds to his dangerousness. It sure doesn't detract in any way or form.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

This is good scrimmage footage. They're playing Kemba, Mitchell and Tatum together, enough to make me think they're planning to start those guys together.

 

[idiot]

I'm going to have to agree to disagree. I think Rudys next step is learning how to create for himself on offense. The guy is 7'2", imagine the luxury to be able to throw down to him when we are struggling and get an easy shot. Embiid makes a killing off of it, so did Booze and Malone. He's more than capable as he has the tools and he's done it before, he's just not comfortable with it. He gets comfortable with it, it only adds to his dangerousness. It sure doesn't detract in any way or form.

I think there's a difference in body-type and general athletic makeup that makes it considerably harder for Rudy to do this on an elite level than it is/was for Embiid, Boozer, or Malone. And let's be honest, in today's NBA the only players you want posting up are those who can do it at an elite level. Otherwise, it's just too inefficient a play.

If it turns out he can develop it, great. But I don't think we should imagine that it's the natural and easy next step. There's a reason only a very small percentage of NBA players develop the capacity to do this efficiently (and it's not for lack of effort).

 

[FalseFlagg K]

I'm going to have to agree to disagree. I think Rudys next step is learning how to create for himself on offense. The guy is 7'2", imagine the luxury to be able to throw down to him when we are struggling and get an easy shot. Embiid makes a killing off of it, so did Booze and Malone. He's more than capable as he has the tools and he's done it before, he's just not comfortable with it. He gets comfortable with it, it only adds to his dangerousness. It sure doesn't detract in any way or form.

firstly Embiid for all the hype is a little inefficient.

secondly Rudy's centre of gravity is too high to be able to back down guys in the post He's NOTHING like Boozer or Malone

thirdly you're talking about yesterdays offense Get with the program We absolutely do NOT need Rudy to develop a post game. One move is all he needs, a little hook shot that he can use to take advantage of a mismatch from a switch That is all.

 

[fishonjazz]

By pick and roll in which Gobert is great at. That takes two to tango though. I'm seriously so confused as to why people think Rudy developing a post move is a terrible thing. Why are guys so against it? Him dominating the post on offense would be huge not only for him but for spacing. We have enough shooters. I think he could easily be an 18+ppg player.

Maybe I'm missing something here...

You were saying that him having a floater is pointless. But here you are talking pick and roll so....... How about a pick and roll and when the defender is there to prevent Rudy from getting to the rim he uses a floater (I have already seen him do this btw)? See how that could be a good thing?

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[fishonjazz]

I would like Gobert to be good enough in the post to punish a mismatch on a switch, so this is awesome news even if these players aren’t NBA-caliber centers (because I wouldn’t want him looking for that shot against one).

The one he was going against today is an NBA caliber center. Played for Dallas that I know of. And wasn't a Tony Bradley type player but an actual rotational player.

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[fishonjazz]

Anybody see the three point competition between Spida and kemba? I have yet to see it but a co worker watched it and said that they each made like 18 threes in a row before anyone missed

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[infection]

Anybody see the three point competition between Spida and kemba? I have yet to see it but a co worker watched it and said that they each made like 18 threes in a row before anyone missed

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They probably each hit like 7-8, then it went to another cut where they each hit 4-5.

 

[fishonjazz]

They probably each hit like 7-8, then it went to another cut where they each hit 4-5.

Or they made like 18 in a row each.

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[JazzyFresh]

One move is all he needs, a little hook shot that he can use to take advantage of a mismatch from a switch That is all.

Uhhh wouldn't a hook shot be a post move? I would say so. He's not hooking it from the free throw line he would be hooking it from the post. It seems to me you just agreed with me. I'm not saying he needs to be a constant threat every trip down the floor, but he does need to be a bigger threat than he is. A sky hook or any consistent hook would be huge.

You were saying that him having a floater is pointless. But here you are talking pick and roll so....... How about a pick and roll and when the defender is there to prevent Rudy from getting to the rim he uses a floater (I have already seen him do this btw)? See how that could be a good thing?

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Oh yeah, I would have no problem with that. Usually though he gets the ball within 10 feet of the rim, and doesn't need it but you're right, sometimes it's useful. I would also like to see him hit that 17 footer. But honest question, what does him developing a go to post move hurt and why on Earth are you dudes so against it? Maybe I'm old school but it makes zero sense for him not to. Apparently he scored 6 points today on the post. Obviously it has its usefulness.

 

[infection]

Or they made like 18 in a row each.

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No sorry, I wasn’t saying that hypothetically, what I was meaning by “probably” was giving my estimate of how I remember what I saw. I’ll go back and look, but it wasn’t 18 each.