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Voter Suppression and Why The Republicans Love It So Much?




Gameface

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5 years? I mean if you conspired to commit voter fraud and then carried it out premeditatively and cast multiple fraudulent votes and had some sort of criminal history I could see 5 years.

That's not some sort of casual sentence. That is absolutely life altering. I knew a guy who killed his sister and he got out in 5 years.
 

str8line

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5 years? I mean if you conspired to commit voter fraud and then carried it out premeditatively and cast multiple fraudulent votes and had some sort of criminal history I could see 5 years.

That's not some sort of casual sentence. That is absolutely life altering. I knew a guy who killed his sister and he got out in 5 years.
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Al-O-Meter

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... and had some sort of criminal history I could see 5 years.
You did catch the part about her being on "supervised release" parole, right? The 5 years was for violating the conditions of her parole.
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You did catch the part about her being on "supervised release" parole, right? The 5 years was for violating the conditions of her parole.
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Nope, I reacted to the posted tweet. There was no mention of her prior criminal history or being on parole.

@Thriller, did you know that info when posting the Tweet? If you did it's pretty misleading.

So, what was her previous crime? Tell me it is for a trivial amount of drug possession and that brings up an entirely different conversation.
 

Al-O-Meter

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Nope, I reacted to the posted tweet. There was no mention of her prior criminal history or being on parole.

@Thriller, did you know that info when posting the Tweet? If you did it's pretty misleading.

So, what was her previous crime? Tell me it is for a trivial amount of drug possession and that brings up an entirely different conversation.
I don't know what the previous crime was but the tweet specifically mentioned that she was on supervised release. That is the term they use for parole now.
 
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Gameface

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I don't know what the previous crime was but the tweet specifically mentioned that she was on supervised release. That is the term they use for parole now.
Oh. I just read the tweet again....

So it does mention that she was on supervised release (I obviously didn't pay enough attention when I read it the first time) and I imagine that's why she was ineligible to vote, which she should have been aware of.
 

The Thriller

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Nope, I reacted to the posted tweet. There was no mention of her prior criminal history or being on parole.

@Thriller, did you know that info when posting the Tweet? If you did it's pretty misleading.

So, what was her previous crime? Tell me it is for a trivial amount of drug possession and that brings up an entirely different conversation.
She wasn’t aware of the parole issue. Many states have recently passed by ballot measure forgiveness for felons. I’ve read that many red states are making it difficult to know whether they are truly eligible to vote or not. I do not know what her prior offenses were nor do I find them relevant.

She believed she could vote (why would she knowingly violate her parole to vote) and did so and got slammed. The other (white) guy knew what he was doing was wrong and got a tap on the wrist.

It’s just another case of systemic racism in our country. Republicans don’t want minorities to vote because they assume that they’ll vote for democrats.
 

Gameface

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She wasn’t aware of the parole issue. Many states have recently passed by ballot measure forgiveness for felons. I’ve read that many red states are making it difficult to know whether they are truly eligible to vote or not. I do not know what her prior offenses were nor do I find them relevant.

She believed she could vote (why would she knowingly violate her parole to vote) and did so and got slammed. The other (white) guy knew what he was doing was wrong and got a tap on the wrist.

It’s just another case of systemic racism in our country. Republicans don’t want minorities to vote because they assume that they’ll vote for democrats.
Yeah, but I assume MOST voter fraud cases that are relatively minor and small scale get treated a lot like that guy's situation was.

It sounds like her sentence is not based on her voter fraud, it is a pre-existing sentence that has been suspended as long as she complies with her parole requirements. So it's misleading.
 

The Thriller

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Yeah, but I assume MOST voter fraud cases that are relatively minor and small scale get treated a lot like that guy's situation was.

It sounds like her sentence is not based on her voter fraud, it is a pre-existing sentence that has been suspended as long as she complies with her parole requirements. So it's misleading.
True. I see your point.
 

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True. I see your point.
But that is why I brought up the low-level drug conviction possibility.

It's a completely different conversation, but in poor minority communities these small drug crimes are charged far more frequently. The police look for them more, they arrest based on them more and the prosecutor goes ahead with charges more. This is not exactly the same but is part of the concept of the "preschool to prison pipeline" where criminal records are established on poor and minorities so that later if they have any sort of more serious offense, first the investigating police see that, the prosecutor sees that and often the jury is informed of that, so they either get mandatory minimums or simply just get sentenced more severely than middle-class people.
 

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