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"We're going to war, bro."

str8line said:
I read it. You said people have gotten desperate at what they cling to regarding Trump. You are talking out of both sides of your mouth.
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Then what does this mean?

Do you have kids? Will you let them go to war and possibly die the Middle East if called upon by Trump because of his recent action?
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str8line said:
Could you predict this outcome based on Trump's behavior?
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The answer to that question can't be divorced from alternatives, and like I said there's a lot of nuance of why I oppose it that your question isn't addressing when framed from that context.

The bottom line of my point is that having an assumption that this "won't affect him" is a bit odd as, to this date, nothing else has affected him, and I think this is one that certainly could, yet it's being dismissed to appeal to an inaccurate belief regarding those who voted for Trump, which speaks to the complete lack of awareness that drives the Trump phenomenon.
 
I’m wondering the opposite. His flaws are blatantly obvious. Dumb. Says dumb things. Does dumb things. Virtually no respect for anyone who isn’t white, and probably rich.

Why vote for him?
 
infection said:
The answer to that question can't be divorced from alternatives, and like I said there's a lot of nuance of why I oppose it that your question isn't addressing when framed from that context.

The bottom line of my point is that having an assumption that this "won't affect him" is a bit odd as, to this date, nothing else has affected him, and I think this is one that certainly could, yet it's being dismissed to appeal to an inaccurate belief regarding those who voted for Trump, which speaks to the complete lack of awareness that drives the Trump phenomenon.
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How about a yes or no answer? Or explain the nuance. Is being on the brink of war defensible by your nuance?
 
I've got a friend in the military that drives tanks. He's itching to go.

There's kind a line I have to draw here that makes me uncomfortable. If **** hits the fan, I want him focused on his task. But I'd prefer **** not to hit the fan.
 
str8line said:
How about a yes or no answer? Or explain the nuance. Is being on the brink of war defensible by your nuance?
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You act like the brink of war means that the US is about be invaded. If there is a war with Iran, then Israel is going to take the brunt of attacks by both Iran and its proxies.

And to answer the other question, yes being on the brink of war is defensible. If you aren't willing to go to war, then your only option is appease the terrorists/dictators/facists.
 
Red said:
I suspect the Iranian leaders are, at this point, and at the very least, asking themselves "what is this guy Trump capable of?". They have to respond, but they must be concerned with what type of response will not unleash more then they would bargain for. Now they know that Trump, unlike the time he called off a drone strike with minutes to spare, won't always just sit back and do nothing.

How this affects the election will depend in part on what unfolds in front of us moving forward.

The "sane and thoughtful" advisors, like Mattis, are gone now. Bolton is on the sidelines cheering for regime change. Pompeo wants regime change.

I find it hard to believe that Bolton, if he testifies at the impeachment trial, would want to hurt Trump badly enough to elect a Democrat in November. On the other hand, he is such a war hawk, maybe he feels he has enough to actually topple Trump, get appointed National Security Advisor a second time, under a President Pence, and resume pushing for regime change in Iran. Nobody wants full out war with Iran more then Bolton. And Pompeo has made it clear he sees Iran through the prism of biblical prophecy, as in the end times. I'd rather our foreign policy leaders not be immersed in history as evengelicals see it.
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Great assessment
 
Wes Mantooth said:
I’m wondering the opposite. His flaws are blatantly obvious. Dumb. Says dumb things. Does dumb things. Virtually no respect for anyone who isn’t white, and probably rich.

Why vote for him?
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This.
Though the answer to your question is simple. Trump is a republican. That's the only characteristic required for republicans to vote for him.
Same goes for most democrats. If trump were the Democratic candidate last election and Hillary was republican then the Dems who hate Trump would have voted for him and the repubs who hate Hillary would have voted for her.

Partisan idiots gonna partisan idiot

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