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What type of candidate can beat Trump?

I don't see Warren beating Trump. She just won't win the popularity contest. She's not cool enough under pressure. Harris on the other hand will probably have some moments vs. Trump similar to her moment with Biden, which drew blood and now he's bleeding out. And with Harris being a woman and black you just know Trump is going to slip up and make a racist remark in addition to his expected misogynist ones. She won't be afraid to get dirty with him and he'll lose his cool.
 
I think Harris should run a moderate campaign once she gets the nomination and her hedging on federal healthcare was a smart move.
 
I think Harris should run a moderate campaign once she gets the nomination and her hedging on federal healthcare was a smart move.

Harris’s t-shirt campaign is a bit low imo. Too Trumpy and petty. I’ll still vote for her if she’s the nominee but I do feel this lowers her campaign into the gutter a bit.

 
Harris’s t-shirt campaign is a bit low imo. Too Trumpy and petty. I’ll still vote for her if she’s the nominee but I do feel this lowers her campaign into the gutter a bit.

What's the context with the t-shirt? Why is it low or petty or trumpy?

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What's the context with the t-shirt? Why is it low or petty or trumpy?

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During the debate, she was talking about bussing to school, and desegregation, and said, "That little girl was me." This is, presumably, a picture of her.

I think it lessens the moment she had to have these shirts on sale the next day.
 
She's sharp, but her economic policies and proposed social programs are going to be a non-starter for most people.
I think you have it wrong. The last election and rash of elections in Europe and South America have been won by conservative demagogues. Promising strong borders and trade deals (tariffs). This is because we’ve reached a breaking point caused by the side effects of income inequality, namely: stagnating wages and low job satisfaction. As a result working class people are tired of the status quo and prone to voting for people who promise change. This same energy brought Obama to power and later trump. There has rarely been a liberal anti-establishment alternative in each of these elections, but the most clear cut example in which there was, was the UK general election between Jeremy Corbyns labor party and Theresa May’s Brexit conservatives in 2017. If you remember, May started the general election with the intent of gaining more seats and building her coalition. Nobody gave Corbyns labor party a chance - Corbyn was essentially a joke. And what happened? Corbyns labor party didn’t only not lose seats, nor hold ground, but the labor party *gained* seats. The world was stunned. Why did this happen? Because when working people that are struggling are presented with a liberal alternative that addresses income inequality, wage stagnation, and low job satisfaction, they will vote liberal. The democrats just need to give them that option rather than block it like they did last election and run on a premise of “America is already great” it is self evidently not, right now.
 
What's the context with the t-shirt? Why is it low or petty or trumpy?

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It’s from the 2nd night of the debate where she insinuated that Biden was a racist and that through his legislative decisions, she as a girl, suffered when it came to school segregation.

It was actually a good moment for her. And contrary to what some Never Trumpers say, good to expose Biden for. I’d rather dig up these skeletons now and see how it plays out than have it sink him in October of 2020 in the general. I’d like to see him explain how things were different in the 70s and 80s and that he’s since learned from his mistakes. That’s how I’d advise him. He was in Congress for 30+ years and was known as being a pretty moderate guy. His record does have some blemishes. Better to explain how he’s learned from the past than to deny them and pretend to be Jesus, MLK, and Gandhi combined.

But her campaign exploiting that moment to sell t-shirts is immature, petty, and too trumpy for me. It’s a desperate move imo, as if her campaign isn’t expecting many more spotlight moments.

I want a leader, not a bully. That’s just me. It doesn’t sink her campaign. I still think she’s in the top 5 democratic candidates. It just lessens her shine a bit for me. Again, I like Warren and Pete. They don’t seem to get caught up in **** throwing.
 
During the debate, she was talking about bussing to school, and desegregation, and said, "That little girl was me." This is, presumably, a picture of her.

I think it lessens the moment she had to have these shirts on sale the next day.
What does bussing to school have to do with? Don't tons of kids from different ethnicities, backgrounds, and financial situations ride buses to school?

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What does bussing to school have to do with? Don't tons of kids from different ethnicities, backgrounds, and financial situations ride buses to school?

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No... Prior to congressional legislation and Supreme Court intervention, which tied federal funding to school desegregating, did kids from different backgrounds ride the same bus and go to the same school.

Prior to the late 1960s and early 1970s, schools still practiced segregation. Brown v Board of education, you’ve heard of that, right? It was a a Supreme Court decision back in 1954 which eliminated the “separate but equal” rationale for segregation. A girl from Kansas wanted to attend a White only school near her house. The school for blacks was on the other side of town. Her parents sued. Many other families from other states launched cases similar to Brown’s where their kids complained about having to attend poorly funded blacks only schools that were long distances away. So it was all combined into the Brown v Board of education case.

That court case made it illegal for schools to segregate. And tied federal funding to school’s to desegregate. Virginia actually shut down it’s public school system for one year as a form of protest rather than take federal dollars and desegregate. Blacks and poor whites suffered while rich white kids went to private (religious schools) for that year. But eventually, they caved and so if a black student wanted to attend a well funded white school nearby, they legally, could not be prevented from doing so.

But the issue still remained for decades on how to get black students to the schools they wanted/needed. Enter, school busing. This remained a “state’s right” issue. And I think it remains so today if I’m not mistaken

This is where Harris pummeled Biden and his record. He fought to keep this as a state’s right issue. This is what segregationists wanted as well. They knew that as long as their states could control school busing, they could maintain segregation without actually explicitly segregating their schools. How? Because they weren’t telling the black students that they couldn’t attend. They could just claim that they didn’t have the buses to provide black students with transportation. They essentially said, “awwwww shucks, we’d love to have you blacks come to our school but doggon, we don’t have the buses to do so.” So when Harris brought this up she was clearly speaking directly to blacks who have experienced this while implying that Biden was one of those “good ol boys” racists.

That’s why Harris said that by maintaining the status quo, she became “that girl.” A girl who was talented and eager to receive the high quality of a white school’s education but was prevented from getting it due to unfair and racist school busing practices.

Make sense?

Even today school busing and desegregation is a controversial issue.

Desegregation of public facilities (libraries, restaurants, bathrooms, schools) triggered white flight. Today, the country is segregated by both explicit and intentional segregation (discrimination in the workplace, drug crime laws, poorly funded schools for minorities, illegal real estate practices, etc) and de facto segregation (unintentional). An example of intentional segregation might be how city planners divided and planned their cities. They prohibited at times blacks from building and once that was cut down, intentionally discriminated against blacks from moving in.

An example of de facto segregation might be comparing sandy or draper to west valley city. Due to economics, tradition, etc You’re just not going to find many minorities on the east side of the SL Valley.

Anyway, that’s why this issue is such a sensitive one. Whites don’t like discussing these issues. A candidate like Biden needs to work through some of these issues while maintaining his support from whites in suburbia. I don’t necessarily blame him
for not doing much for blacks back in the 70s as long as he recognizes his mistakes. While a candidate like Harris feels like she can build a coalition behind fighting for minorities who have been trampled upon.

And then you have a candidate like Trump, who has no interest in resolving this issue. He doesn’t give a ****. Nor does he care to understand it.

 
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This is hyperbole to the max.

Democrats proposing affordable college education, universal health care, and desegregation legislation:

A. Isn’t radical. Most western countries subsidize college students and all have universal health care.
B. Has been done before in certain respects (GI bill, Pell Grant, Medicaid/Medicare, Trumancare, Nixoncare, Hillarycare)
C. Is popular among both democrats and republicans. Plus, they benefit most people, not just billionaires.
D. Republicans acting like Dems are the radicals... lol Seen Trump recently?

That liberal socialist Eisenhower’s platform:

The Eisenhower Administration will continue to fight for dynamic and progressive programs which, among other things, will:Stimulate improved job safety of our workers, through assistance to the States, employees and employers;

Continue and further perfect its programs of assistance to the millions of workers with special employment problems, such as older workers, handicapped workers, members of minority groups, and migratory workers;

Strengthen and improve the Federal-State Employment Service and improve the effectiveness of the unemployment insurance system;

Protect by law, the assets of employee welfare and benefit plans so that workers who are the beneficiaries can be assured of their rightful benefits;

Assure equal pay for equal work regardless of Sex;

Clarify and strengthen the eight-hour laws for the benefit of workers who are subject to federal wage standards on Federal and Federally-assisted construction, and maintain and continue the vigorous administration of the Federal prevailing minimum wage law for public supply contracts;

Extend the protection of the Federal minimum wage laws to as many more workers as is possible and practicable;

Continue to fight for the elimination of discrimination in employment because of race, creed, color, national origin, ancestry or sex;

Provide assistance to improve the economic conditions of areas faced with persistent and substantial unemployment.
 
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