With the 47th Pick, Kevin Murphy

[Saint Cy of JFC]

If he can become a 3 point specialist that can play some defense I like it. Know nothing about him though, but with a second round pick it's hard to care too much.

Defensively, Murphy does an excellent job playing within Tennessee Tech's team concept in both man-to-man and zone situations. He is not a lock down defender, but makes an effort to contest shots and does his best work knowing exactly where his help is on the floor in one-on-one situations. Though he could certainly stand to be more physical on this end of the floor, especially when defending the pick and roll, and will have to show that he can guard bigger, more athletic wings than he normally faces in the OVC during the draft process, Murphy has some tools to work with and seems to know his role defensively.

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Better review defensively than most small school scorers get.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

If this kid can play SF, I absolutely LOVE THE PICK. If he can only play SG, I'm confused unless Burks is actually becoming a PG or if Hayward is our SF

Laughing at your Sig. Xthren dodged a bullet there, nearly lost his left nut.

 

[Thee Idiotic Minivan K]

Locke is interviewing KOC, and said most gm's were most interested in Favors. Could be why there were no trades.

 

[The Midnight]

Don't like Carroll starting and I think Devin is gone. You forgot Mo Williams

I thought we were going to get a draft pick as part of that Mo Williams deal.

Without the pick - we're just gonna get Williams on a 1 year rental? What's the point of that?

We already have Harris for 1 more year, Watson & Tinsley who wasn't that bad. Just don't see Williams as a huge upgrade.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I thought we were going to get a draft pick as part of that Mo Williams deal.

Without the pick - we're just gonna get Williams on a 1 year rental? What's the point of that?

We already have Harris for 1 more year, Watson & Tinsley who wasn't that bad. Just don't see Williams as a huge upgrade.

There has been nothing said about getting picks, just us hoping.

1 year rental most likely. If the Jazz like him he can be re-signed. The point is that we add talent to the team and make the team a hell of a lot better than we were before the trade.

 

[Thee Idiotic Minivan K]

These are the line ups I see for the Jazz next year:

Harris
Hayward
Carroll
Millsap
Favors

Off the bench:

Watson
Burks
Murphy
Evans
Kanter

Thoughts?

Where's Al?

I thought we were going to get a draft pick as part of that Mo Williams deal.

Without the pick - we're just gonna get Williams on a 1 year rental? What's the point of that?

We already have Harris for 1 more year, Watson & Tinsley who wasn't that bad. Just don't see Williams as a huge upgrade.

He's still an asset. He or Harris could fetch us something at the trade deadline next year at the very least.

 

[Scat]

These are the line ups I see for the Jazz next year:

Harris
Hayward
Carroll
Millsap
Favors

Off the bench:

Watson
Burks
Murphy
Evans
Kanter

Thoughts?

Where's Jefferson and if he's gone what do we get for him?

 

[The Midnight]

There has been nothing said about getting picks, just us hoping.

1 year rental most likely. If the Jazz like him he can be re-signed. The point is that we add talent to the team and make the team a hell of a lot better than we were before the trade.

But we do lose that trade exception plus the Millers have to pay $8.5m more for a back up PG. Also with both Harris & Williams fighting for the starting spot - that ain't a happy family IMO.

There must be another angle we're not aware of........

 

[freakazoid]

Sorry, catching a few minutes doesn't qualify as watching a game.

You did not specify that in the original offer, and I provided a quality player assessment.

This shall not be forgotten.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

But we do lose that trade exception plus the Millers have to pay $8.5m more for a back up PG. Also with both Harris & Williams fighting for the starting spot - that ain't a happy family IMO.

There must be another angle we're not aware of........

You lose it if you don't use it. The Jazz see this as the best opportunity to use it.

Who the **** cares what Greggy boy has to pay? If he is willing to do it, I couldn't give a **** about how much $$$ he has to shell out. It's not like acquiring Maurice will change our FA flexibility in 2013.

 

[The Midnight]

You lose it if you don't use it. The Jazz see this as the best opportunity to use it.

Who the **** cares what Greggy boy has to pay? If he is willing to do it, I couldn't give a **** about how much $$$ he has to shell out. It's not like acquiring Maurice will change our FA flexibility in 2013.

Well we don't - but he still have to sign off on the deal. Knowing how much of a tight a** they are I'm surprised he'd be willing to pay $8.5m extra on a back up PG.

 

[billyshelby]

You lose it if you don't use it. The Jazz see this as the best opportunity to use it.

Who the **** cares what Greggy boy has to pay? If he is willing to do it, I couldn't give a **** about how much $$$ he has to shell out. It's not like acquiring Maurice will change our FA flexibility in 2013.

Yeah, but it drastically changes our flexibility in 2012. Getting Mo for the TPE without some kind of pick coming back, while simultaneously helping both Dallas and LA, is just foolish.

 

[The Midnight]

You lose it if you don't use it. The Jazz see this as the best opportunity to use it.

Who the **** cares what Greggy boy has to pay? If he is willing to do it, I couldn't give a **** about how much $$$ he has to shell out. It's not like acquiring Maurice will change our FA flexibility in 2013.

Jody Genessy ‏@DJJazzyJody
Kevin O'Connor said letting Mo Williams get away in 2004 was his "worst mistake."

This might have something to do with it. KOC seems to regard Williams very highly indeed.....

 

[Bodhi]

But we do lose that trade exception plus the Millers have to pay $8.5m more for a back up PG. Also with both Harris & Williams fighting for the starting spot - that ain't a happy family IMO.

There must be another angle we're not aware of........

If he's nothing more than a bench scorer, we win. From a fans standpoint, the money means nothing and we VERY much needed a guy off the bench that could CONSISTENTLY score. I'm confused how it's bad.

 

[The Midnight]

If he's nothing more than a bench scorer, we win. From a fans standpoint, the money means nothing and we VERY much needed a guy off the bench that could CONSISTENTLY score. I'm confused how it's bad.

I'm not just looking at it from purely a fan's stand point.

All I'm saying is there must be another piece to the puzzle to warrant Greggy boy over there shelling out an extra $8.5m for a back up PG when we already have Harris & Watson on contract.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Yeah, but it drastically changes our flexibility in 2012. Getting Mo for the TPE without some kind of pick coming back, while simultaneously helping both Dallas and LA, is just foolish.

It helps us too. You can't be paranoid about making a deal just because it helps another team. I don't think the Jazz are looking to make any other deals in 2012. They want expirings and people that can help the team out.

 

[Archie Moses]

Kevin Murphy sure does have a nice Jazz player ring to it, eh?

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Well we don't - but he still have to sign off on the deal. Knowing how much of a tight a** they are I'm surprised he'd be willing to pay $8.5m extra on a back up PG.

The Jazz have been one of the highest payroll teams for the past 5 years.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

If he's nothing more than a bench scorer, we win. From a fans standpoint, the money means nothing and we VERY much needed a guy off the bench that could CONSISTENTLY score. I'm confused how it's bad.

This all the way. When did having a 39% career 3pt shooter who can play become a bad thing?

 

[Darkwing Duck]

The Jazz have been one of the highest payroll teams for the past 5 years.

Facts have no place in this debate.