Withey accused of domestic violence

[Rubashov]

Was not questioning her timing... just saying it's bad for the organization.

Okay they aren't scumbags but one of them did something awful. Either Jeff abused her or she's bitter and causing him issues. It's a terrible action either way that's what I was trying to convey.

I was also raised in a home where abuse took place... i get that people who do awful things can also do good things too.

That's terrible man and i hope you're ok, thanks for being brave enough to put that out there.

Sometimes I and i'm sure a lot of others take for granted a stable and supportive home. Its good to see you've got the strength to tell people about it. Wishing you good thoughts bro.

 

[Darkwing Duck]

In fact, psychology without the application of the scientific method isn't psychology at all. It's just a bunch of people shooting the ****.

Naw. It's philosophy.

 

[JazzGal]

He's good looking? lol

Uh, yeah - best looking guy on the team. And that's saying a lot since we have a pretty nice looking team.

My first instinct is to hope that it isn't true because I want to stick up for a cute Jazz player, and my second was to feel sorry for the poor girl because this must all be really difficult. Does this mean I'm a Jazz fan first and a feminist second?

Seriously, I am really sad for both of them. Something went terribly wrong in this relationship, and I hope it will be figured out if criminal activity occurred.

We can never really understand a DV victim's timing of reporting, but perhaps she was triggered knowing he was in town and the fear of that caused her to finally report. Of course I have no idea, but it is a theory I hadn't seen in this thread. There are so many reasons why women do not report domestic and sexual violence immediately, if ever, but much of it stems from women not being in a position of power.

 

[Getting Traded]

Please everyone read this five times. Truth.

If you believe that comment is the truth, then you also don't believe in innocence until proven guilty, because that suggests that the accused is guilty because the accuser said it. Sure women who have been sexually assaulted have been maligned, but all we know is domestic violence. That's a pretty broad term. Did he hit her with a towel perhaps? Who knows. This is being taken way out of proportion because of people's imaginations. Who knows, maybe Jeff hung with Bill Cosby.

 

[Quin's Murderface]

I see nothing here I disagree with. It is an irony that so many, while claiming that the man is innocent until proven guilty, by default assume guilt on the part of the female accuser charging her with a large litany of mendacious motives, with lying, or with any number of other character flaws, crimes or misdemeanors.

I am not saying that we should assume Withey or any other man is guilty (although when the accusations pile up such as with Cosby, Trump or O'Reilly the odds are they're guilty), but neither should we assume the woman is a lying, conniving, gold digging so and so. Yet, the latter is precisely what our societial norms/practices conditions us to do. We should, in short, take such charges seriously and afford respect and consideration to those making them and not go into default 'blame the victim' mode.

Awesome no worries, then. Yeah I agree that too often people have their go-to response (the woman is lying, the man is abusive). Thanks for clarifying what you think.

 

[homeytennis]

The strange part of this is that she filed the police report in Manhattan Beach which is 21 miles from the arena and hotel.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

That's terrible man and i hope you're ok, thanks for being brave enough to put that out there.

Sometimes I and i'm sure a lot of others take for granted a stable and supportive home. Its good to see you've got the strength to tell people about it. Wishing you good thoughts bro.

I'm totally good and it wasn't a constant thing... there were just really ugly instances here and there. Parents split when I was young so it wasn't my mom... not like that makes it better. Alcohol/tempers just don't mix. Thankfully only subjected to that environment on the weekends and during the summer. Also, my dad did turn things around, but had to hit rock bottom.

My mother was an angel and absolutely supported and sustained me. Certainly feel like I had more support from her than many had from both their parents. An absolute rock. Extremely fortunate.

 

[LogGrad98]

"Summers also logged in to Withey's Instagram and Facebook accounts back in June and posted a photo of herself in a sports bra and thong saying that her boyfriend had been cheating on her and took another woman to the movies."

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...y-four-months-accusing-f-ing-hoes-Tinder.html

I went to the movies with my wife's sister, is that cheating?





For the record, barely got to second base.




Nope, not cheating.

 

[Getting Traded]

I've been reading through this, and my gut feeling is that the woman is a scumbag.

1. She says she's reporting it to protect other women -- oh, why did you wait so long? Very disingenuous
2. She already is a person of loose moral standards -- poses for playboy, takes selfies in her bra -- c'mon
3. She picks an emotional period in Jeff's life, in the playoffs when he's under great pressure due to Gobert's absence -- sounds like a vendetta, trying to get back at him
4. She reports in a different town than where it happened
5. The police already investigated the incident and didn't think important enough to write it up.

It's hard to give this woman the benefit of the doubt based on the above questionable facts and motives. Yes, we have to keep our minds open. But I think we also need to give Jeff at least the benefit of the doubt, especially when he is accused by someone of questionable integrity.

 

[LifeOnaPlate]

JW's lawyer denies the abuse altogether.

 

[♪alt13]

JW's lawyer denies the abuse altogether.

Still waiting for someone's lawyer to say" these allegations are patently true". I mean it has to happen eventually, right?

 

[Stoked]

I've been reading through this, and my gut feeling is that the woman is a scumbag.

1. She says she's reporting it to protect other women -- oh, why did you wait so long? Very disingenuous
2. She already is a person of loose moral standards -- poses for playboy, takes selfies in her bra -- c'mon
3. She picks an emotional period in Jeff's life, in the playoffs when he's under great pressure due to Gobert's absence -- sounds like a vendetta, trying to get back at him
4. She reports in a different town than where it happened
5. The police already investigated the incident and didn't think important enough to write it up.

It's hard to give this woman the benefit of the doubt based on the above questionable facts and motives. Yes, we have to keep our minds open. But I think we also need to give Jeff at least the benefit of the doubt, especially when he is accused by someone of questionable integrity.

Not gonna get into all of it but #2 is trash. So damn what. "Bra selfies", really? Smfh