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You're the GM this offseason. What do you do?

Handlogten's Heros said:
Yes, but to do this re-negotiate deal we have to waive him... otherwise we are guaranteeing the amount. It isn't an opt in... it is do nothing and the full amount is guaranteed or waive him... if you waive him he has to clear waivers prior to signing with us... any team could pick him up if they have the space.
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So I'm wrong, I admit it. I didn't know he had to clear waivers.

Like I said earlier, I'm not even sold on keeping him at his $17+ number. So in the very unlikely event that we do waive Favors and another team decides to pick up his $17+ one year contract, then so be it. I don't think any team wants to pay him that much for one year, but maybe it happens.

And if another team picks him up, then we know we're moving on. We can always say we tried to waive him to re-sign him but he got picked up. That's an easier band-aid to pull.
 
If another team picks Favors off waivers (heh), that's also less money on the market.

I'm down.
 
I still think DL needs to approach the draft with the mindset of trading Favors + pick for somebody on a rookie contract who can play the 4. Maybe I'm a biased fan, but I think he has value on a one year, 17 million contact. One of these rebuilding teams with cap space could use that contract, and probably flip him again at the deadline to accumulate more assets.
 
LoPo said:
So I'm wrong, I admit it. I didn't know he had to clear waivers.

Like I said earlier, I'm not even sold on keeping him at his $17+ number. So in the very unlikely event that we do waive Favors and another team decides to pick up his $17+ one year contract, then so be it. I don't think any team wants to pay him that much for one year, but maybe it happens.

And if another team picks him up, then we know we're moving on. We can always say we tried to waive him to re-sign him but he got picked up. That's an easier band-aid to pull.
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The best use of Favs at this point is to guarantee his salary and use him in a trade or waive him and move on. If he is on the roster next year it is because we failed to find an upgrade in FA and trade. I don't know how legal it is but I think if we guarantee his deal in a trade for Mike Conley we could do it at draft time with our 2019 pick and preserve either 12-15M in space or stay over the cap and preserve the MLE and BAE. Going to FA and missing on Harris then completing a Conley trade using cap space and a 2020 pick leaves us with the room MLE and hurts going forward.

Getting the deal done at the deadline would have been just effing great looking back. Could have done Rubio and Exum with Thabo... kept Favs and all our exceptions. If Exum was really the hangup it was stupid AF to say no.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
The best use of Favs at this point is to guarantee his salary and use him in a trade or waive him and move on. If he is on the roster next year it is because we failed to find an upgrade in FA and trade. I don't know how legal it is but I think if we guarantee his deal in a trade for Mike Conley we could do it at draft time with our 2019 pick and preserve either 12-15M in space or stay over the cap and preserve the MLE and BAE. Going to FA and missing on Harris then completing a Conley trade using cap space and a 2020 pick leaves us with the room MLE and hurts going forward.

Getting the deal done at the deadline would have been just effing great looking back. Could have done Rubio and Exum with Thabo... kept Favs and all our exceptions. If Exum was really the hangup it was stupid AF to say no.
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If Exum was the holdup, I would think about firing Lindsey right ****ing now.

If they can tuck him into any deal that nets a player, they have to.
 
NUMBERICA said:
If Exum was the holdup, I would think about firing Lindsey right ****ing now.

If they can tuck him into any deal that nets a player, they have to.
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Once we got Favs under contract I am not sure why we didn't play a little hardball with Exum. If his deal was like $6M a year I think we could get off it easier and that delta is somewhat meaningful even if we did keep him. If he took QO that $10m in space would be quite helpful in the math and maneuvering we are doing right now.

If we make a deal that includes Exum as outgoing salary that has to be viewed as a decent benefit of the trade.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Once we got Favs under contract I am not sure why we didn't play a little hardball with Exum. If his deal was like $6M a year I think we could get off it easier and that delta is somewhat meaningful even if we did keep him. If he took QO that $10m in space would be quite helpful in the math and maneuvering we are doing right now.

If we make a deal that includes Exum as outgoing salary that has to be viewed as a decent benefit of the trade.
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I think DL was trying to avoid making the Hayward mistake in RFA again, and that's why he overpaid Exum.
 
David Stern said:
I think DL was trying to avoid making the Hayward mistake in RFA again, and that's why he overpaid Exum.
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NUMBERICA said:
Except Exum has never been good, but whatever.
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This and this... and I will add... there wasn't a ton of space out there so MLE should have been the upper limit imo. Houston waited out Capela and Orlando got a pretty solid bargain on Gordon. At very least I had hoped third year would not be fully guaranteed.
 
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Handlogten's Heros said:
The best use of Favs at this point is to guarantee his salary and use him in a trade or waive him and move on. If he is on the roster next year it is because we failed to find an upgrade in FA and trade. I don't know how legal it is but I think if we guarantee his deal in a trade for Mike Conley we could do it at draft time with our 2019 pick and preserve either 12-15M in space or stay over the cap and preserve the MLE and BAE. Going to FA and missing on Harris then completing a Conley trade using cap space and a 2020 pick leaves us with the room MLE and hurts going forward.

Getting the deal done at the deadline would have been just effing great looking back. Could have done Rubio and Exum with Thabo... kept Favs and all our exceptions. If Exum was really the hangup it was stupid AF to say no.
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I'm okay with the idea of guaranteeing/using Favors in a draft day trade, but I still don't like the idea of Conley for that price. $30.5, $32.5 and $34.5 the next three years in addition to losing a 1st, Favors, Rubio, Exum and any free agent who might actually want to sign here.
 
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