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Jazz, George Hill taking contract talks down to wire

Bawse Dawg said:
So tell me the talent we would be adding. Give me a realistic scenario where we spend that money elsewhere and become a better team.

We've had cap space and have been worrying about paying all of our players for years, well it's time to pay the piper. Stop looking ahead, we are good now and the priority should be staying that way. How do you even classify 'overpay'? What is our record with and without Hill this year? He has been huge for us. People make a lot of money these days, suck it up.
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So ya, if you're okay with being a decent playoffs team as the peak of this rebuild, then paying Hill the max is okay. Because who cares about flexibility? We're good enough. But I don't think so. I just don't think Hill is THAT good. Maybe we can get Jru Holiday for cheaper, or something.
 
Siro said:
So ya, if you're okay with being a decent playoffs team as the peak of this rebuild, then paying Hill the max is okay. Because who cares about flexibility? We're good enough. But I don't think so. I just don't think Hill is THAT good. Maybe we can get Jru Holiday for cheaper, or something.
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Ehh, definitely disagree with this. Our hopes of being more than a decent playoff team are on the shoulders of two players, Hayward and Gobert. If those players keep improving then our team keeps improving. Hill is just the 3rd player who stabilizes it all and gives our two stars a consistent level of high level play on both ends. If you lose that, then you risk putting too much burden on those two guys if no one else can step up into that role.
 
T. Jones just tweeted that a deal will not be done on an extension.
 
stitches said:
It saves 14 million of capspace over the next 3 years if they make a perfectly fair deal(if they subtract the 14M we can give him now from his future salary), or more if Hill gives us some discount for getting tons of money up front.

Those close to 5M per year are NOT a small amount with all the players we are going to be paying. We need this deal if we want any chance to keep this core together.
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I'm sure our definitions of the words "Save" and "Discount" differ as they apply to this topic.

My point is what is George Hill's market value this summer if he stays in indiana (or gets displaced to another team as a rental)??

are we all gonna stand around here and throw out #'s like 3 years and 80 mil?? c'mon now..


He turns 31 this summer, contract values are exploding in the NBA.. why anyone would assume he won't be looking for absolute top-dollar for possibly his last 'big' deal is beyond me. not trying to be a killjoy.. Is that not sound logic tho..?
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Ehh, definitely disagree with this. Our hopes of being more than a decent playoff team are on the shoulders of two players, Hayward and Gobert. If those players keep improving then our team keeps improving. Hill is just the 3rd player who stabilizes it all and gives our two stars a consistent level of high level play on both ends. If you lose that, then you risk putting too much burden on those two guys if no one else can step up into that role.
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How much further improvement can we expect from Hayward and Gobert? And do we wanna pay our third best player (who is really a 16 pts 4 ast kind of guy) the max? I don't. I also don't think that contract would be tradable, in case Exum is ready to start in a couple of years.

Even 20 is a bit much. I'm being generous here.
 
Gordon and George are good friends. So will Hayward now think the Jazz are being cheap? Will he decide to go elsewhere because he doesn't think Utah is serious about keeping talent? Foolish cost savings maneuver by DL.
 
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