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ONE LOVE said:
Were you physically there on the plane listening to the offer being made to him?
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Nope just the eye witnesses accounts of it being read over the intercom that was collaborated by lots of people. Also it is a pretty standard offer that they give every time this situation happens.
 
ONE LOVE said:
People are starting to cut up their United/Chase credit cards..


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The first one isn't a card it is junk mail. The second will be replaced at the expense of United Airlines by the end of the week.

Nontroversy
 
Ron Mexico said:
It is not really a problem that often and it is the only way for airlines to make money. The other solution is to have the government subsidize them more. It works out well for most people. When you have flexibility to get off a flight what they offer you is usually worth it. I did it all the time when I traveled for work and got lots of free flights and hotel stays.
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It's the only way for airlines to make money?


They're literally milking it.


The US airlines earned record profits of more than $12 billion in the first half of 2016.
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https://airinsight.com/2016/08/18/us-airline-industry-highly-profitable/
 
fishonjazz said:
Good retort. I don't think airlines would be hurting for money if they stopped overbooking. Hell, would save money sometimes since they wouldn't have to pay people to get off the flight.
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Dude, they hire mathematicians to figure this out and be as precise as possible. They don't "wing" it.
They would not make more money. If they would then they would. They don't kick people off cuz they think it's funny to ****ing with their passengers.
 
ONE LOVE said:
It's the only way for airlines to make money?


They're literally milking it.





https://airinsight.com/2016/08/18/us-airline-industry-highly-profitable/
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Either way the prices of a ticket would go up. Either from subsidies or from you paying more. I prefer the airlines trying to be more effective and make more money. Especially where it very very rarely has negative consequences and has a lot of positives. Including greatly reducing the price of tickets.

Its fine you disagree with me @Onelove if you think the airlines should have not called the police when he ran onto the plane without a ticket that is fine. I dont see any situations where you go anywhere that requires a ticket and run past security and refuse to leave that the police or security will not be called on you. How the police handled it is a separate discussion, one in which I am more neutral on and have no strong opinions on.

Here is a link for subsidized flying.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/trav...-much-do-taxpayers-support-airlines/71568226/
 
♪alt13 said:
Dude, they hire mathematicians to figure this out and be as precise as possible. They don't "wing" it.
They would not make more money if they would then they would. They don't kick people off cuz they think it's funny to ****ing with their passengers.
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I didn't say they would make more silly. I said that they wouldn't be hurting for money if they are making 12 billion per year. I'm not feeling sorry for them.
 
Ron Mexico said:
Either way the prices of a ticket would go up. Either from subsidies or from you paying more. I prefer the airlines trying to be more effective and make more money. Especially where it very very rarely has negative consequences.

Its fine you disagree with me @Onelove if you think the airlines should have not called the police when he ran onto the plane without a ticket that is fine. I dont see any situations where you go anywhere that requires a ticket and run past security and refuse to leave that the police or security will not be called on you. How the police handled it is a separate discussion, one in which I am more neutral on and have no strong opinions on.

Here is a link for subsidized flying.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/trav...-much-do-taxpayers-support-airlines/71568226/
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Why would the price have to go up? Why can't it come off of increased profits?
 
fishonjazz said:
I didn't say they would make more silly. I said that they wouldn't be hurting for money if they are making 12 billion per year. I'm not feeling sorry for them.
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Exactly. Their profits increased each year. It can just come off of the increase in profit. That won't affect ticket prices.
 
Is this 12B legit? Is this after all expenses? I thought airlines barely break even. If that.
 
Ron Mexico said:
Either way the prices of a ticket would go up. Either from subsidies or from you paying more. I prefer the airlines trying to be more effective and make more money. Especially where it very very rarely has negative consequences.

Its fine you disagree with me @Onelove if you think the airlines should have not called the police when he ran onto the plane without a ticket that is fine. I dont see any situations where you go anywhere that requires a ticket and run past security and refuse to leave that the police or security will not be called on you. How the police handled it is a separate discussion, one in which I am more neutral on and have no strong opinions on.

Here is a link for subsidized flying.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/trav...-much-do-taxpayers-support-airlines/71568226/
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Do you think it would be a good idea for the airline to tell their customers when the next flight is when making the offer to the volunteers so that they are not surprised to be finding that they can't get on another plane until the next day?

Would that be to courteous of them?
 
fishonjazz said:
I didn't say they would make more silly. I said that they wouldn't be hurting for money if they are making 12 billion per year. I'm not feeling sorry for them.
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How about all the people that they had to lay off last decade when the price of fuel exploded, did you feel bad for them?

They could raise prices, less people would fly and fewer would work. Not exactly a win win
 
♪alt13 said:
How about all the people that they had to lay off last decade when the price of fuel exploded, did you feel bad for them?
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Yes
 
fishonjazz said:
Do you think it would be a good idea for the airline to tell their customers when the next flight is when making the offer to the volunteers so that they are not surprised to be finding that they can't get on another plane until the next day?

Would that be to courteous of them?
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They do. They also let them know in the offer that it was a hotel for the night and they could catch a flight the next day.
 
ONE LOVE said:
Exactly. Their profits increased each year. It can just come off of the increase in profit. That won't affect ticket prices.
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Every government subsidizes their airlines.


Airlines funnel planes to hubs the hubs are where they typically overbook. There are so many delays and other problems flying that if hubs didnt overbook they might have planes that are almost empty because of missed connections. This allows airlines to also put you on the next flight if you missed your connection. Many people cancel their flights or buy flexible passes such as business people as well. Many many seats would go empty if they didnt overbook. Would you be willing to pay double for a ticket so that they are never overbooked? I would not be.
 
Wes Mantooth said:
Is this 12B legit? Is this after all expenses? I thought airlines barely break even. If that.
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Airlines are subsidized and most run on razer thin profits on many routes. That is why they overbook them otherwise they would lose a lot of money and airlines would stop flying to many areas and only travel to major airports.
 
Ron Mexico said:
Every government subsidizes their airlines.


Airlines funnel planes to hubs the hubs are where they typically overbook. There are so many delays and other problems flying that if hubs didnt overbook they might have planes that are almost empty because of missed connections. This allows airlines to also put you on the next flight if you missed your connection. Many people cancel their flights or buy flexible passes such as business people as well. Many many seats would go empty if they didnt overbook. Would you be willing to pay double for a ticket so that they are never overbooked? I would not be.
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I don't know enough about the industry, and certainly don't have enough data to know whether there will be 'planes that are almost empty'. I find it hard to believe that would be the case, and it sounds like a convenient excuse for a policy that most other industries do not have.
 
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