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Just re-reading what happened. Did you guys know that passengers weren't selected at random to get off? The computer program picked customer with the 'least value to the airline'.


United’s gate agents went on board to offer compensation to customers who would agree to fly later, a negotiation that normally takes place at the gate. There are rules for this process, known as “denied boarding.” No one took their top offer, $800 plus a hotel voucher.

Instead of offering more, agents used a computer program, as dictated by the rules, to pick fliers of the least value to the airline based on factors like ticket price paid and frequent-flier status, according to people familiar with the matter.
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Wow.


If that's not discrimination, then I don't know what is.


https://www.wsj.com/articles/behind-united-airlines-fateful-decision-to-call-police-1492384610?mod=e2tw
 
ONE LOVE said:
Just re-reading what happened. Did you guys know that passengers weren't selected at random to get off? The computer program picked customer with the 'least value to the airline'.





Wow.


If that's not discrimination, then I don't know what is.


https://www.wsj.com/articles/behind-united-airlines-fateful-decision-to-call-police-1492384610?mod=e2tw
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Have you been reading this thread? It had already been established that airlines to exactly that. They have a list of every passenger and know who will get left off if they have to. I've seen the lists before.
 
LogGrad98 said:
Have you been reading this thread? It had already been established that airlines to exactly that. They have a list of every passenger and know who will get left off if they have to. I've seen the lists before.
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I might have missed that post/detail. But what do you think about that? To me it's discriminatory and wrong.
 
ONE LOVE said:
I might have missed that post/detail. But what do you think about that? To me it's discriminatory and wrong.
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The list isn't based on your race, or even whether you happen to be the type of person that would trade drugs to addicts for sex acts.
 
♪alt13 said:
The list isn't based on your race, or even whether you happen to be the type of person that would trade drugs to addicts for sex acts.
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Yeah but it is based on price paid (or effectively how much money you have and what seats you can afford), and whether or not you have a frequent flyer status (again based on how often you can afford to fly).


This is like the sinking of the Titanic all over again. You're in first class you have a place in the life boat, you're in third class you go down with the ship.
 
ONE LOVE said:
Yeah but it is based on price paid (or effectively how much money you have and what seats you can afford), and whether or not you have a frequent flyer status (again based on how often you can afford to fly).


This is like the sinking of the Titanic all over again. You're in first class you have a place in the life boat, you're in third class you go down with the ship.
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Except that instead of drowning they give you a fistful of cash to catch the next flight.
 
ONE LOVE said:
Nothing about prescriptions for sex.
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That's good, because despite this dude being convicted of trading drugs for sex from one of his young patients it would be false to spin it in a way to make it appear that United had singled him out for that reason.
 
♪alt13 said:
That's good, because despite this dude being convicted of trading drugs for sex from one of his young patients it would be false to spin it in a way to make it appear that United had singled him out for that reason.
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I've moved on to talk about this issue generally.
 
ONE LOVE said:
Yeah but it is based on price paid (or effectively how much money you have and what seats you can afford), and whether or not you have a frequent flyer status (again based on how often you can afford to fly).


This is like the sinking of the Titanic all over again. You're in first class you have a place in the life boat, you're in third class you go down with the ship.
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Yes, this is pretty much just like the sinking of the Titanic.
 
So, how much you paid for your seat, I think what they mean there is if you got a discounted ticket. Someone who paid full price has a slightly bigger claim to keep their seat over someone who got a discount. And I don't think rich people pay full price and poor people get discounts, if anything it's usually the opposite.

They also consider connecting flights, unaccompanied minors, people with special needs, etc., etc.. It's not a class distinction, at least it doesn't seem like it to me.

And using the word discriminatory, there are certain kinds of discrimination that are bad, but the word and act is not bad in and of itself. It means to recognize a distinction; differentiate. We all do it all the time 24/7/365.
 
Bulletproof said:
So, how much you paid for your seat, I think what they mean there is if you got a discounted ticket. Someone who paid full price has a slightly bigger claim to keep their seat over someone who got a discount. And I don't think rich people pay full price and poor people get discounts, if anything it's usually the opposite.

They also consider connecting flights, unaccompanied minors, people with special needs, etc., etc.. It's not a class distinction, at least it doesn't seem like it to me.

And using the word discriminatory, there are certain kinds of discrimination that are bad, but the word and act is not bad in and of itself. It means to recognize a distinction; differentiate. We all do it all the time 24/7/365.
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So we all know if you buy the tickets in advance you can get them cheaper. So for example if a guy who isn't well off and buys a ticket for $100 and bought it 6 months in advance, gets compared to a guy who bought the ticket last week for $200 because he can afford it, then the guy who bought it 6 months ago gets kicked off the plane?


I don't know about you but to me that's not fair.
 
ONE LOVE said:
So we all know if you buy the tickets in advance you can get them cheaper. So for example if a guy who isn't well off and buys a ticket for $100 and bought it 6 months in advance, gets compared to a guy who bought the ticket last week for $200 because he can afford it, then the guy who bought it 6 months ago gets kicked off the plan?


I don't know about you but to me that's not fair.
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Why do you bring up financial status there. It has nothing to do with how far in advance a person buys their ticket.

And you may not know, but it's not as simple as how fast in advance you buy. The price changes hour by hour, day by day.

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Bulletproof said:
Why do you bring up financial status there. It has nothing to do with how far in advance a person buys their ticket.

And you may not know, but it's not as simple as how fast in advance you buy. The price changes hour by hour, day by day.

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So a poor student who can't afford $200 tickets, but he is willing to wait 6 months to buy $100 ticket, how is that not to do with affordability?
 
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