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colton said:
A few pronunciation things that have been peeving me:

People who pronounce "Snyder" as "Schneider". One of the ESPN announcers was doing this other night with Quin Snyder.

People who pronounce "Realtor" as "Relator". There's a commercial running currently that does this (probably on 97.5 since that's what I most listen to). I'm sorry, but if you can't even pronounce your own career correctly, I'm not going to take your comercial seriously at all.

A Utah-ism: people who pronounce "sale" as "sell". I've lived here 10 years and this particular Utah accent thing still seems really odd to me.

Here's a Biblical one: People who pronounce "shew" as "shoe". 99.9% of LDS get this wrong. Sorry, folks, it's just an archaic spelling of the word "show". And it's pronounced "show". If it helps, you can think of it rhyming with "sew". You don't pronounce that as "sue" do you?


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And not related to pronunciation, but people who use the word "moisture" as a synonym for "precipitation". It seems nearly every Sunday at church people in prayers give thanks for the moisture. What, did your basement flood? And why would you be thankful for that? If you're thankful for the rain or snow just say "rain" or "snow"! Or even "precipitation", that would be fine with me as well.

Is that one a Utah-wide thing, or is it only popular among Utah LDS? Can't recall if I've ever heard "moisture" used that way outside of church.

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Thanks for letting me vent.
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The using moisture as a substitute for rain happens here too. I never understood it either.


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colton said:
Where do you live? I've never run into that outside of Utah.
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I think it is pretty universal in the church. I have heard it in every state we have attended church at one time or another.

Another thing you hear a lot is "nourish and strengthen" in blessing the food..."nourish and strengthen our bodies and give us the health we need". That irritates me almost as much as "moisture".
 
LogGrad98 said:
I think it is pretty universal in the church. I have heard it in every state we have attended church at one time or another.

Another thing you hear a lot is "nourish and strengthen" in blessing the food..."nourish and strengthen our bodies and give us the health we need". That irritates me almost as much as "moisture".
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As long as we are on church pet peeves I also have to say it bothers me a bit to have a parent take their child up to bear their testimony and tell the child to say "I know Thomas S Monson is a living prophet, I know the church is true, I know Jesus died for our sins, etc. etc." I am sorry but a 5 year old child "knows" no such thing, doesn't even know who Monson is, has no real concept of "sin" to begin with. This is just blatant indoctrination to me. We encouraged our kids to just share their feelings about going to church and express what was in their heart. So they usually said things like "I like primary and really like my teacher" and "I get a good feeling when I come to church". That is more real, imo.
 
LogGrad98 said:
I think it is pretty universal in the church. I have heard it in every state we have attended church at one time or another.

Another thing you hear a lot is "nourish and strengthen" in blessing the food..."nourish and strengthen our bodies and give us the health we need". That irritates me almost as much as "moisture".
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LMAO!

"Nourish and strengthen" is my go-to when I have to bless the food.


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LogGrad98 said:
I think it is pretty universal in the church. I have heard it in every state we have attended church at one time or another.

Another thing you hear a lot is "nourish and strengthen" in blessing the food..."nourish and strengthen our bodies and give us the health we need". That irritates me almost as much as "moisture".
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When I was a kid I thought "harmor" was an adjective. Because my dad would often pray that no "harm or accident" would happen to us/our relatives.
 
LogGrad98 said:
The short vowel thing is a very strong part of the Utah accent. "Rill" instead of "real". "Fill" instead of "feel". "Pen" instead of "pin" even. "Bin" instead of "been". Also using "was" as the all-purpose to-be verb. "We was", "they was", etc. I think it is a really lazy way of talking, and it sounds uneducated, just my opinion.

The moisture thing has bugged me for YEARS. I actually googled it once and found out it belongs to a class of words that many people find irritating and could even be deemed a psychological issue of sorts. I will google it again and post on it. But my wife knows that she will hear me venting as soon as I hear someone thankful for the moisture. And I have attended church in multiple states, although mostly in the west, and I have heard it just about everywhere (Utah, Nevada, Washington, Idaho, Arizona, Oregon, and even here in California).
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The absolute worst is tal(towel). Do you have any paper tals? I don't have any tals period. Wtf is a tal?
 
The sale sell thing drives me crazy too. I don't think it's just an accent thing, I think people are dumb. On classifieds they really say in writing:

I have some _____ to sale. Or I'd like to sale some _______ . pretty sure you mean sell.

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Lane splitting needs to be abolished. It is ridiculously dangerous and disruptive to the general flow of traffic. Motorcyclists take it to mean they can ride on any old line they want. I watched a bike clip a mirror as he was "splitting" the line on a 2-lane highway, with heavy traffic moving at about 45 MPH. He was probably going 60, driving along the double yellows in between the lanes when the road veered to the left and a car coming at him was closer to center, not being able to see him right away. The bike veered back into the lane of traffic going the same direction and nailed the mirror of a car there, taking it right off and spilling the bike on the pavement, where he spun in front of on-coming traffic. I am shocked they all stopped in time. Even on the freeway in relatively "safe" conditions it is just stupid. I cannot believe this passed as official legal policy. I kind of get it when traffic is so heavily congested it is almost stopped, but there is no way they would keep to only those conditions, and I regularly see bikes splitting lanes in heavy traffic going a good 30 MPH faster than surrounding traffic. I wonder how many accidents this has caused and how many people have been killed doing it.

Well a quick google found this:

https://fox5sandiego.com/2017/02/28/motorcyclist-killed-in-lane-splitting-crash/

This article is kind of funny because they use accident statistics to show that it may be safer than people think, without once addressing the possibility that almost 1000 accidents could have been avoided if they hadn't been lane splitting. Just trying to show that in the lane splitting accidents that did happen the outcome was less severe. Seems short-sighted.

https://www.mercurynews.com/2015/06...tting-makes-some-california-motorists-uneasy/

Riding a motorcycle between lanes may be safer than critics believe. The UC Berkeley report looked at 5,969 motorcycle accidents in California from July 2012 to August 2013. Of those, 997 involved lane-splitting. The study concluded that motorcyclists splitting lanes at 50 mph or slower were far less likely to suffer serious injury from their accidents than motorcyclists who were not lane-splitting or doing it at high speeds:

• 9 percent of lane-splitters at moderate speeds suffered head injuries, compared with 17 percent overall.

• 19 percent suffered injuries to their torso, compared with 29 percent overall.

• And the death rate was 1.2 percent, compared with 3 percent overall.
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Either way I think it should be stopped.
 
LogGrad98 said:
Lane splitting needs to be abolished. It is ridiculously dangerous and disruptive to the general flow of traffic. Motorcyclists take it to mean they can ride on any old line they want. I watched a bike clip a mirror as he was "splitting" the line on a 2-lane highway, with heavy traffic moving at about 45 MPH. He was probably going 60, driving along the double yellows in between the lanes when the road veered to the left and a car coming at him was closer to center, not being able to see him right away. The bike veered back into the lane of traffic going the same direction and nailed the mirror of a car there, taking it right off and spilling the bike on the pavement, where he spun in front of on-coming traffic. I am shocked they all stopped in time. Even on the freeway in relatively "safe" conditions it is just stupid. I cannot believe this passed as official legal policy. I kind of get it when traffic is so heavily congested it is almost stopped, but there is no way they would keep to only those conditions, and I regularly see bikes splitting lanes in heavy traffic going a good 30 MPH faster than surrounding traffic. I wonder how many accidents this has caused and how many people have been killed doing it.

Well a quick google found this:

https://fox5sandiego.com/2017/02/28/motorcyclist-killed-in-lane-splitting-crash/

This article is kind of funny because they use accident statistics to show that it may be safer than people think, without once addressing the possibility that almost 1000 accidents could have been avoided if they hadn't been lane splitting. Just trying to show that in the lane splitting accidents that did happen the outcome was less severe. Seems short-sighted.

https://www.mercurynews.com/2015/06...tting-makes-some-california-motorists-uneasy/



Either way I think it should be stopped.
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Lane splitting is illegal in Utah. When I had a motorcycle in California people lane split all the time but I was under the impression that it was illegal in California as well unless traffic was under 15 mph and you could use it to pull to the front of traffic at lights. I have no problem with it being used that way. It is dangerous to do it at high speeds, California has very loose motorcycle laws and a lot of deaths per accident and a lot of accidents per rider last time I looked at the stats. I think Motorcyclists usually are just putting themselves at risk but not always. Generally most the people doing the lane splitting seem to be bullet bike riders that tend to be awful people to be around. I used to ride a bullet bike when I was like 18-20 but I grew up. They are fun to goof around on but just really dangerous and not comfortable to ride and not fun to ride except really fast.
 
Ron Mexico said:
Lane splitting is illegal in Utah. When I had a motorcycle in California people lane split all the time but I was under the impression that it was illegal in California as well unless traffic was under 15 mph and you could use it to pull to the front of traffic at lights. I have no problem with it being used that way. It is dangerous to do it at high speeds, California has very loose motorcycle laws and a lot of deaths per accident and a lot of accidents per rider last time I looked at the stats. I think Motorcyclists usually are just putting themselves at risk but not always. Generally most the people doing the lane splitting seem to be bullet bike riders that tend to be awful people to be around. I used to ride a bullet bike when I was like 18-20 but I grew up. They are fun to goof around on but just really dangerous and not comfortable to ride and not fun to ride except really fast.
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I remember going to work one stinking hot summer night, and these three blokes on bikes in singlets, shorts and thongs (flip flops) went screaming past doing I reckon 250-260kph, one of them on one wheel, weaving through traffic. I looked at them I thought "hmmmm i'll be releasing what's left of your body from the morgue by the end of the night." Absolute madness, I couldn't care less if the kill themselves but at those sorts of speeds they're a fair chance of killing someone else.
 
Ron Mexico said:
Lane splitting is illegal in Utah. When I had a motorcycle in California people lane split all the time but I was under the impression that it was illegal in California as well unless traffic was under 15 mph and you could use it to pull to the front of traffic at lights. I have no problem with it being used that way. It is dangerous to do it at high speeds, California has very loose motorcycle laws and a lot of deaths per accident and a lot of accidents per rider last time I looked at the stats. I think Motorcyclists usually are just putting themselves at risk but not always. Generally most the people doing the lane splitting seem to be bullet bike riders that tend to be awful people to be around. I used to ride a bullet bike when I was like 18-20 but I grew up. They are fun to goof around on but just really dangerous and not comfortable to ride and not fun to ride except really fast.
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I believe they are trying to pass a similar law here with it being legal at certain speeds. I don't like it, but I'm not a biker.

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People who are turning left at a green light and don't pull into the intersection. The light changes to yellow and they have time to turn but nobody behind them does.
 
Farside said:
People who are turning left at a green light and don't pull into the intersection. The light changes to yellow and they have time to turn but nobody behind them does.
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That is annoying but it is illegal in some states. Oregon for example you are not allowed to pull into the intersection until it is clear and you are turning. Some people might be used to different laws from their home state. Or you might be in a state that it is illegal in...
 
colton said:
When I was a kid I thought "harmor" was an adjective. Because my dad would often pray that no "harm or accident" would happen to us/our relatives.
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So awesome.
 
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