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Handlogten's Heros said:
I think Thabo could be a piece that helps us get the Cleveland 1st. They have no perimeter defenders of his caliber... He could help on KD. We could save them some cash by taking Frye.

Like if we offered Thabo and our second for Frye and their first would they say no? It's a 15-20 spot difference in draft position. We could then do Favs and the pick for Niko... substitute JJ if we can get something better than a crappy second for Favs without taking back money.
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If the Jazz have plans to re-tool and make it to the playoffs next year, they ABSOLUTELY must keep Thabo. They can move any of Udoh, Jerebko, Favors, Joe Jesus, Burks or Rubio. . . but they have to keep an eye towards actually being able to defend against the Warriors and Rockets themselves.

Unless it’s a ridiculous offer, they should keep Thabo.
 
We are projected to get the #11 pick. Given our draft success and cleverness of DL being able to trade up in the draft I think it would be silly to trade away that asset.

All things considered we hold on to Favors and package him and the 11 to get a better pick or a player we really want like Kevin Love, since we know LeBron will leave after this year and Cleveland will need to rebuild.
 
Ellis269 said:
If the Jazz have plans to re-tool and make it to the playoffs next year, they ABSOLUTELY must keep Thabo. They can move any of Udoh, Jerebko, Favors, Joe Jesus, Burks or RUBIO. . . but they have to keep an eye towards actually being able to defend against the Warriors and Rockets themselves.

Unless it’s a ridiculous offer, they should keep Thabo.
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I think Rubio is in long term plans. Gorbert and DM love playing with him and Quinn seams to have a lot of confidence in him.

I don't think we can get a better PG and DM provides enough of a scoring punch in the back court. The Kid is going to be Hall of Fame and so will Gobert.
 
Odgerton13 said:
We are projected to get the #11 pick. Given our draft success and cleverness of DL being able to trade up in the draft I think it would be silly to trade away that asset.

All things considered we hold on to Favors and package him and the 11 to get a better pick or a player we really want like Kevin Love, since we know LeBron will leave after this year and Cleveland will need to rebuild.
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Wait, it would be silly to trade away the 11 pick but in the next sentence you propose trading it away for Love?

Lottery picks very rarely are moved before lottery day. It's more likely to happen during the draft. At that point Favors will be gone. Moreover, most teams in the lottery suck and are not looking to add talent on short term deals. On the contrary, most teams are looking to improve their draft position and accumulate assets. The exception occurs when a contender has a lottery pick (Celtics, Cavs this year) but they won't trade away an incredible asset for a guy like Favors. Best bet is to tank and improve our pick.
 
Man I'm keeping Thabo for sure and Joe cuz he doesn't want out
 
stitches said:
i don't know if I can take him seriously after he continues with this No trade clause BS. In theory there is NTC right in this second, in practice - not really, Chicago can make that NTC disappear at the drop of a hat. Chicago can trade him to whoever they want.
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Yes, but why would THAT team do the deal if they know that Mirotic doesn't want to be there? Then they would know they only have him for a season and a bit, and his value in the trade goes way down. So I think the no-trade thing still has some meaning/value.
 
colton said:
Yes, but why would THAT team do the deal if they know that Mirotic doesn't want to be there? Then they would know they only have him for a season and a bit, and his value in the trade goes way down. So I think the no-trade thing still has some meaning/value.
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Also because the teams looking at him have salary concerns... so part of his value is as an expiring if he gets hurt or doesn't jive well.
 
Ellis269 said:
If the Jazz have plans to re-tool and make it to the playoffs next year, they ABSOLUTELY must keep Thabo. They can move any of Udoh, Jerebko, Favors, Joe Jesus, Burks or Rubio. . . but they have to keep an eye towards actually being able to defend against the Warriors and Rockets themselves.

Unless it’s a ridiculous offer, they should keep Thabo.
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I think Royce can cover for some of his stuff and is signed longer and is super cheap. The reason Thabo gets a first is because he is valuable against those teams... You must trade value to get value.

He also is 33 so he won't be on the team after his contract expires is my guess.
 
latin jazz said:
Wait, it would be silly to trade away the 11 pick but in the next sentence you propose trading it away for Love?

Lottery picks very rarely are moved before lottery day. It's more likely to happen during the draft. At that point Favors will be gone. Moreover, most teams in the lottery suck and are not looking to add talent on short term deals. On the contrary, most teams are looking to improve their draft position and accumulate assets. The exception occurs when a contender has a lottery pick (Celtics, Cavs this year) but they won't trade away an incredible asset for a guy like Favors. Best bet is to tank and improve our pick.
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I see where your coming from and I'm not sure I was clear enough. I see Favors putting out his best numbers since before his injury. I think his value is rising and I think he's poised to have a near career year. I think come draft day we could pair him with the 11 to move up or get a strong player like Love.

Cleveland sees the writing on the wall and are going to have to tank. Favors is solid and 11 is a much better pick then 25 or higher.

I'm not saying that this particular trade comes to fruition. It might give us more leverage then trading Favors now though.
 
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