Since I promised to stay out of the other thread, but have been summoned

[Archie Moses]

I usually just drink Captain Morgan. It's cheap (I buy half gallons) and pretty good.

I like sailor Jerry too. I don't really know much at all about rum though. Haven't really tried hardly any and am open to any suggestions. Has to be kinda cheap though. I won't spend over 25 bucks per fifth on any booze and prefer it to be less that 20.

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Rum is one of my drinks of choice. Rarely do I drink mix drinks and I take shots 95% of the time. I will never drink Barcadi again cause it makes you feel like death the next day. I usually only drink white rum too cause it makes a noticeable difference on how I feel the next day. C. Morgan White/Silver rum isn't bad neither is Barbancourt White Rhum.

 

[fishonjazz]

Fructose and glucose are unnatural? And wth hell is "high intensity form of sugar" lol? Because fructose tastes sweeter?

I guess we can't eat fruits or honey, they're more unnatural than the fake oxygen in oxygen tanks.

I believe he said high fructose corn syrup. Not just fructose. Admittedly I have no idea what the difference is or if there is a distinction or not, just wanted to make sure you are going after him for what he actually posted

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[fishonjazz]

Rum is one of my drinks of choice. Rarely do I drink mix drinks and I take shots 95% of the time. I will never drink Barcadi again cause it makes you feel like death the next day. I usually only drink white rum too cause it makes a noticeable difference on how I feel the next day. C. Morgan White/Silver rum isn't bad neither is Barbancourt White Rhum.
Barbancourt White Rhum

Hmm. I have never had white rum (that I know of). I will give it a try once this half gallon runs out. Thanks for the tip

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[Gameface]

Fructose and glucose are unnatural? And wth hell is "high intensity form of sugar" lol? Because fructose tastes sweeter?

I guess we can't eat fruits or honey, they're more unnatural than the fake oxygen in oxygen tanks.

It kills me listening to the BS about "high fructose corn syrup." It is sugar. Sugar is bad for you in large quantities. It makes absolutely no ****ing difference if you're consuming natural cane sugar, honey, whatever that crystal gripping hippy ****ing sugar from some other fruit is, corn sugar (dextrose), the kinds of sugars that come from mashing cereal grains (monosaccharide glucose, disaccharide maltose, trisaccharide maltotriose, and maltodextrins), or any other sugar. Fiber helps in delivering sugar over a longer period of time, so eating "whole" fruit is better for you than drinking fruit juice, as far as dumping mass amounts of sugar into your body is concerned. And high fructose corn syrup is a relatively concentrated form of sugar, but it is no more harmful than any other kind of sugar. You body will react and process it just like it would any other type of sugar.

 

[idestroyedthetoilet]

I believe he said high fructose corn syrup. Not just fructose. Admittedly I have no idea what the difference is or if there is a distinction or not, just wanted to make sure you are going after him for what he actually posted

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Sugars, monosaccharides with the chemical formula CnH2nOn (typically C6H12O6) commonly form disaccharides in nature. Fructose and glucose are natural monosacharides that lose a water molecule to form glucose-fructose - C12H22O11. Most sugars are readily digested by our body, no matter how they are combined. Cellulose is an exception, which is a glucose polysaccharide.

Point is, high fructose corn syrup is nothing but 2 common sugars with the enzyme (protein) used to manufacture it. Nothing "unnatural" about it. The issue is with the high concentration it is consumed, and the high % fructose which is harder on the liver.

 

[idestroyedthetoilet]

It kills me listening to the BS about "high fructose corn syrup." It is sugar. Sugar is bad for you in large quantities. It makes absolutely no ****ing difference if you're consuming natural cane sugar, honey, whatever that crystal gripping hippy ****ing sugar from some other fruit is, corn sugar (dextrose), the kinds of sugars that come from mashing cereal grains (monosaccharide glucose, disaccharide maltose, trisaccharide maltotriose, and maltodextrins), or any other sugar. Fiber helps in delivering sugar over a longer period of time, so eating "whole" fruit is better for you than drinking fruit juice, as far as dumping mass amounts of sugar into your body is concerned. And high fructose corn syrup is a relatively concentrated form of sugar, but it is no more harmful than any other kind of sugar. You body will react and process it just like it would any other type of sugar.

I find most of the unnatural, we didnt evolve on it stuff bull ****. I may be wrong but it doesn't compute. Wheat, corn, we didn't evolve on it for hundreds of thousands of years blah blah. Yes, a % of the population can't have those things but it's probably much smaller than the % of people allergic to something in a paleo-diet (which was eat whatever the hell you could find).

If you want to try living some puristic natural bs diet then go dig up a bunch of nasty roots and tubers, eat cattails, chew on the grains and fruit pods you find on weeds, chomp down whatever fresh carrion you're lucky to wander across, and whatever nuts and berries you're lucky enough to beat the other animals to that didnt eat them before ripening. Maybe a tiny egg or two a year if youre lucky enough to find some.

Paleo diet is whack. We need a balance of inputs.

 

[fishonjazz]

Sugars, monosaccharides with the chemical formula CnH2nOn (typically C6H12O6) commonly form disaccharides in nature. Fructose and glucose are natural monosacharides that lose a water molecule to form glucose-fructose - C12H22O11. Most sugars are readily digested by our body, no matter how they are combined. Cellulose is an exception, which is a glucose polysaccharide.

Point is, high fructose corn syrup is nothing but 2 common sugars with the enzyme (protein) used to manufacture it. Nothing "unnatural" about it. The issue is with the high concentration it is consumed, and the high % fructose which is harder on the liver.

Good explanation. Thanks.
Maybe your last sentence is what eenie meanie was reffering too in regard to it being unhealthy. Idk.

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[Getting Traded]

I believe he said high fructose corn syrup. Not just fructose. Admittedly I have no idea what the difference is or if there is a distinction or not, just wanted to make sure you are going after him for what he actually posted

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There is a big difference between HFCS -- high intensity might the wrong term, but it is an unnatural more concentrated form of sugar which is supposed to cause people to accumulate more fat and have other unhealthy effects. There is stuff online that explains it better.

 

[One Brow]

Thanks for the info. I will have to look into it a bit

I suppose aspartame might be worse than sugar, in the same way water might be worse than a weak solution of acid or base. There's just no evidence that it is.

 

[One Brow]

And high fructose corn syrup is a relatively concentrated form of sugar, but it is no more harmful than any other kind of sugar. You body will react and process it just like it would any other type of sugar.

Your post was almost completely correct. There are three basic simple sugars (glucose, fructose, and galactose). Glucose is usable immediately, galactose converts quickly to glucose, and fructose takes a little more time and effort to convert to glucose, but not enough more time to base any long-term health decisions on it.

 

[One Brow]

There is a big difference between HFCS -- high intensity might the wrong term, but it is an unnatural more concentrated form of sugar which is supposed to cause people to accumulate more fat and have other unhealthy effects. There is stuff online that explains it better.

If you eat X number of calories of sugar, it will reliably have the same effects, regardless of the form of sugar which comprises those X calories.

 

[Getting Traded]

If you eat X number of calories of sugar, it will reliably have the same effects, regardless of the form of sugar which comprises those X calories.

Research HFCS. It is not just sugar; it's a manufactured form of sugar and does have some bad side effects; some say it has contributed greatly to obesity. Ok, so the FDA says no evidence it's worse than regular sugar, but I don't trust the FDA, for one. If you do, fine. Harvard Medical Journal says the juries out because there are studies showing people metabolize HFCS differently. I distrust establishment sources because most are funded or supported by industries with investment in the issue that the sources are reporting about.