Since I promised to stay out of the other thread, but have been summoned

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  1. Harambe

    Harambe Well-Known Member Contributor

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    And how would you like me to explain that the margin for error, misunderstanding, or misrepresentation that the safety regulations haven't? What scale of Quackery-Repeatable, Quantifiable Science would you like?
     

  2. Harambe

    Harambe Well-Known Member Contributor

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    Pick one specific topic. I'll grab you something.
     
  3. Eenie-Meenie

    Eenie-Meenie Well-Known Member

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    So stop using made up terms like "Quackery-Repeatable, Quantifiable Science" Give me some specifics instead of b.s.
     
  4. Eenie-Meenie

    Eenie-Meenie Well-Known Member

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    links to Hyman not having a good reputation, that's what I want to see. And also, promise me you're not a One Brow Alt as he has been known to have alts. I already have put him on ignore but if you harass me in the manner of One Brow, then I know he's up to his old tricks.
     
  5. Harambe

    Harambe Well-Known Member Contributor

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    Not good, or specific enough. No self respecting doctor or scientist is going to write up a study that says "Dr. Richtenshpeil is a quack". That's not what science is about.

    Which part of his work that he says he can scientifically prove, and recreate with near 100% certainty, and show long term results that are explained in the back end of analysis would you like me to find something for?
     
  6. Eenie-Meenie

    Eenie-Meenie Well-Known Member

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    So can you deny the following, which suggests that continual ingestion of HFCS leads to "leaky gut" or don't you believe in Leaky Gut Syndrome? That's a term I didn't make up.

    "Since there is there is no chemical bond between them, no digestion is required so they are more rapidly absorbed into your blood stream. Fructose goes right to the liver and triggers lipogenesis (the production of fats like triglycerides and cholesterol) this is why it is the major cause of liver damage in this country and causes a condition called “fatty liver” which affects 70 million people.The rapidly absorbed glucose triggers big spikes in insulin–our body’s major fat storage hormone. Both these features of HFCS lead to increased metabolic disturbances that drive increases in appetite, weight gain, diabetes, heart disease, cancer, dementia, and more.But there was one more thing I learned during lunch with Dr. Bruce Ames. Research done by his group at the Children’s Hospital Oakland Research Institute found that free fructose from HFCS requires more energy to be absorbed by the gut and soaks up two phosphorous molecules from ATP (our body’s energy source).
    This depletes the energy fuel source, or ATP, in our gut required to maintain the integrity of our intestinal lining. Little “tight junctions” cement each intestinal cell together preventing food and bacteria from “leaking” across the intestinal membrane and triggering an immune reaction and body wide inflammation."
     
  7. Eenie-Meenie

    Eenie-Meenie Well-Known Member

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    I'm starting to see Harambe that you are full of b.s. like your daddy, One Brow, sophists to the core. You know what a sophist is? A damned liar. You had previously slandered Hyman but now you say there are no links showing what you say to be true.
     
  8. One Brow

    One Brow Well-Known Member

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    Well, there was the one time I logged into CARM as Harry Bridge. I can't think of any others.

    Yeah, you can't pull the wool over this guy's eyes, unless you have some snake oil for sale.
     
  9. Harambe

    Harambe Well-Known Member Contributor

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    Leaky Gut is not a fully recognized medical syndrome. The simplest of searches on google point to it's wiki, and a response from England's NHS. Here in the states, I would assume coders would try to use K59.9, which does not identify as Leaky Gut Syndrome, to get insurance companies to cover charges.

    I feel like you're getting swept up with big words. Science doesn't scream "BUT CAN YOU DENY THIS!!!?1". Science demands observable, quantifiable results, with models run through clinical trials. What's being described here, is a theoretical process that makes the most sense to him.

    Four years ago, sepsis management was antibiotics and no fluids. After putting it in practice, the absence was questioned, and then changed to "Yes, Fluids!", as we got more data. Last year, it changed again to ok, some fluids, but let's help the patient process them to prevent edema, kidney failure, etc. You can see that written out for ICU patients here.

    We had, what we thought was an understanding. That understanding, after observed more acutely, changed. We thought we had another understanding. After observing that, it changed. We're now attempting to find the optimal rate, and I have no doubt that when it's all finished will become a scaled chart of finding the best rate for the patient.

    Science doesn't ask "Can you deny this". Science asks "Can you prove this".
     
  10. Harambe

    Harambe Well-Known Member Contributor

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    Charts are usually a lot easier to follow. Let's get on the same page... here's the roadmap.

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  11. Eenie-Meenie

    Eenie-Meenie Well-Known Member

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    Now,
    One Brow's Alt, did you realize that when he's on the site, you're not. I guess you could log on at the same time, though, if you want to cover it. How is that you both joined the site on the same day. Is that a coincidence? How is it that you jumped on here and now are trying to debate on Leaky Gut, which is apparent, you know nothing about, after One Brow harangued me for reporting issues with High Fructose Corn Syrup, which is widely known? Mainstream manufacturers wouldn't be putting labels on their products touting No High Fructose Corn Syrup if knowledge wasn't mainstream about HFCS and its link to negative health consequences.
     
  12. Harambe

    Harambe Well-Known Member Contributor

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    So, I know you're too proud for help. So I went ahead and asked one of the mods to follow up with you about the "Show your online status" privacy setting. I know they have lives, and their time is very precious, but I believe one or more of them will be back to you shortly.

    In the mean time, please refer back to the color coded chart I made for you. I'm hoping if you observe it, you will see what I'm seeing.
     
  13. One Brow

    One Brow Well-Known Member

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    It was the first or second day that site returned after the great meltdown of the previous site.

    If I am everyone who joined on May 26, 2010, how many supposed alts would that be? 100?
     
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  14. Harambe

    Harambe Well-Known Member Contributor

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    Now come on now, Harambe2. It's probably the Owner's job to explain it to him. Or maybe one of the senior mods that were around about that time.

    Maybe you can create a thread in the site feedback forum to help him address this question?
     
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  15. LogGrad98

    LogGrad98 Well-Known Member Contributor

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    I'm Nega...I mean One Brow.
     
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  16. Harambe

    Harambe Well-Known Member Contributor

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    Honestly, I always figured you were a @Stoked alt.
     
  17. LogGrad98

    LogGrad98 Well-Known Member Contributor

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    Other way around.
     
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  18. idestroyedthetoilet

    idestroyedthetoilet Well-Known Member

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    Are you still pretending people are arguing against you that ingesting high quantities of fructose can be bad for you, or are you really this dense?

    Anyway mate, to add fuel to the fire, when I got banned and posted on Archie OB's forum, the only other poster there was OB/Archie/Sloanfeld/Clutch/Babe/Ain't. And Ain't openly stated that it was time to put that act to rest, and never posted again.

    (Sorry dudes, I had to)
     
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  19. Eenie-Meenie

    Eenie-Meenie Well-Known Member

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    I'm not pretending anything. Are you trying to say they agree with what I posted. Sure doesn't seem that way to me.
     
  20. Harambe

    Harambe Well-Known Member Contributor

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    I accept that I was wrong. It's totally ok to be proven wrong.

    I'm just sorry I never asked sooner.
     

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