Did I say they don't?
Drug Deaths
- Thread starter Stoked
- Start date
Not to mention as a group that 240 million has a massive collection of differing opinions. Trying to pin 240 million people to any single position is laughable.
All this money and power is pulled in so many different directions. Because their opinions and policies are often widely different.
But yes, % they tend to be judge mental.
idestroyedthetoilet
Well-Known Member
I never understood why being judgemental is bad, or where the notion that it is came from in the first place.
Eh, it has its time and place. Sometimes being judgemental is the right call. Just none of us like it when we are the ones being judged.
framer
Well-Known Member
It works best when you hold yourself to the same standard that you hold others to. If you have differing standards, it can be REALLY bad.
One Brow
Well-Known Member
You enter judgments after you have a firm opinion on how things should be. Sometimes those firm opinions are unfair to other people.
And sometimes people are offended by sound judgements.
idestroyedthetoilet
Well-Known Member
Nobody likes a hypocrite, if that's what you're saying. Everybody judges, all the time. It's part of being alive. Learning to conform is a big part of childhood development, and not being able to conform can cause psychological problems like gender dysphoria. You conform to norms, or judgement of your actions by your peers. It's what we do so I don't get the don't judge me, you're judgemental cliches, especially when non-teenagers use the term as some platitude. Yeah, I don't know what you've been through and should be thoughtful. Still gonna judge.
One Brow
Well-Known Member
I think you have cause and effect reversed there.
Engorged On Unborn Gore
Well-Known Member
Yeah, volunteers. Here's what Jacob 2 says:
"17 Think of your brethren like unto yourselves, and be familiar with all and free with your substance, that they may be rich like unto you."
The Book of Mormon is a _covenant_, yes? Section 84 of the Doctrine and Covenants insists that it is. So Jacob's word is part of that covenant, and basic needs like housing, clothing, and food should be the minimum for the poorest of the poor. But the real kicker in this verse is that the rich should give until the poor are rich LIKE THEM.
Homeless people cannot even access any of the food those LDS volunteers canned, and none of the funds LDS volunteers donated go to housing or drug therapy for homeless people. All of that is reserved for people that are already housed in local congregations. The homeless are referred to local homeless services for their basic needs (run by non-LDS heretics), and they are not allowed to go to church with families! They have a branch set aside in a commercial property downtown (essentially a garage) called the Rio Grande Branch on 440 South 400 West where they are cordoned off, away from all the clean people.
And who feeds the homeless in Salt Lake City? The Catholics(!!!), who provide two free meals a day at the downtown Weigan Center. Which should be embarrassing in the extreme to people who read about Jesus in the Book of Mormon and the Bible, and insist that they are the "covenant people".
To what are they covenanted to? The Church's investment portfolio was leaked to Mormon Wikileaks, and is $32 billion. Their real estate holdings are more than that. They could put all of the homeless services and shelters downtown out of business for 1000 years if they chose to, but The Road Home (the largest shelter) begs for donations from the public every single year to remain in operation.
Engorged On Unborn Gore
Well-Known Member
To all of you bad asses who love passing judgment, I gotta tell you there is no greater joy than judging the local religious culture using their own religious texts.
Here is a snippet from the Book of Mormon that will delight you:
"16 And also, ye yourselves will succor those that stand in need of your succor; ye will administer of your substance unto him that standeth in need; and ye will not suffer that the beggar putteth up his petition to you in vain, and turn him out to perish.
17 Perhaps thou shalt say: The man has brought upon himself his misery; therefore I will stay my hand, and will not give unto him of my food, nor impart unto him of my substance that he may not suffer, for his punishments are just—
18 But I say unto you, O man, whosoever doeth this the same hath great cause to repent; and except he repenteth of that which he hath done he perisheth forever, and hath no interest in the kingdom of God."
Here is a snippet from the Book of Mormon that will delight you:
"16 And also, ye yourselves will succor those that stand in need of your succor; ye will administer of your substance unto him that standeth in need; and ye will not suffer that the beggar putteth up his petition to you in vain, and turn him out to perish.
17 Perhaps thou shalt say: The man has brought upon himself his misery; therefore I will stay my hand, and will not give unto him of my food, nor impart unto him of my substance that he may not suffer, for his punishments are just—
18 But I say unto you, O man, whosoever doeth this the same hath great cause to repent; and except he repenteth of that which he hath done he perisheth forever, and hath no interest in the kingdom of God."
idestroyedthetoilet
Well-Known Member
That may be so. All I can do is try to understand, which is pretty hard when the best and brightest dont know all that needs to be known to understand reasons for different development.
From what I've read, early childhood development goes in stages, with each stage requiring successful completion of the previous stages to progress normally. Learning norms comes as early as pre-school, first from parents and adults instructing but also then from peers too. Inability to conform creates confusion, and I'm not sure how well we understand the psychophysiological effects of that. Does this create at least some of the epigenetic differences that many believe happen in people with autism, adhd, dysphoria, etc?
idestroyedthetoilet
Well-Known Member
You're keeping on?
If I gave tithes to the Mormons I'd hope they wouldn't use them to turn Utah into the nation's homeless capitol.
Archie Moses
Well-Known Member
I definitely judge the **** out of people.
The annoying thing with judging is when people make their standards universal and look down on others who think differently and judge them for it.
The annoying thing with judging is when people make their standards universal and look down on others who think differently and judge them for it.
One Brow
Well-Known Member
We know there is a strong genetic component to autism, and I can speak from personal experience that autistic children are different practically from birth, long before they feel any need to fit in.
As for gender dysphoria, we could just as easily surmise that those who are popular tend to suppress their dysphoria to maintain their popularity. I agree there is no good take on what the cause is.
Engorged On Unborn Gore
Well-Known Member
Of course. Why wouldn’t I?
That’s exactly what the scriptures suggest Zion should be. And they have the scratch to do it.
But you don’t have to worry about that at all. The LDS Institution operates like Nike or Apple. They give a modicum of their wealth worldwide (1 billion in the last 30 years), but their primary focus is on maximizing their own profits.
Archie Moses
Well-Known Member
Sounds fair to me tbh.
Engorged On Unborn Gore
Well-Known Member
It’s only fair until you realize that they are a nonprofit 501(c). And they also get to call the shots on local legislation regarding liquor, marijuana, etc.
For-profit businesses should be taxed the same way as Nike and Apple.
Archie Moses
Well-Known Member
I realize that and I still think it's fair. They're following their best interests within the means of the law.
I imagine, the vast majority of people, organizations, churches, etc would do the same. I mean, can you give me an example of someone breaking this mold and not serving their best interests?
Whether you think they should or shouldn't be taxed is irrelevant unless you're voting.