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[idestroyedthetoilet]

I think you have cause and effect reversed there.

That may be so. All I can do is try to understand, which is pretty hard when the best and brightest dont know all that needs to be known to understand reasons for different development.

From what I've read, early childhood development goes in stages, with each stage requiring successful completion of the previous stages to progress normally. Learning norms comes as early as pre-school, first from parents and adults instructing but also then from peers too. Inability to conform creates confusion, and I'm not sure how well we understand the psychophysiological effects of that. Does this create at least some of the epigenetic differences that many believe happen in people with autism, adhd, dysphoria, etc?

 

[idestroyedthetoilet]

Yeah, volunteers. Here's what Jacob 2 says:

"17 Think of your brethren like unto yourselves, and be familiar with all and free with your substance, that they may be rich like unto you."

The Book of Mormon is a _covenant_, yes? Section 84 of the Doctrine and Covenants insists that it is. So Jacob's word is part of that covenant, and basic needs like housing, clothing, and food should be the minimum for the poorest of the poor. But the real kicker in this verse is that the rich should give until the poor are rich LIKE THEM.

Homeless people cannot even access any of the food those LDS volunteers canned, and none of the funds LDS volunteers donated go to housing or drug therapy for homeless people. All of that is reserved for people that are already housed in local congregations. The homeless are referred to local homeless services for their basic needs (run by non-LDS heretics), and they are not allowed to go to church with families! They have a branch set aside in a commercial property downtown (essentially a garage) called the Rio Grande Branch on 440 South 400 West where they are cordoned off, away from all the clean people.

And who feeds the homeless in Salt Lake City? The Catholics(!!!), who provide two free meals a day at the downtown Weigan Center. Which should be embarrassing in the extreme to people who read about Jesus in the Book of Mormon and the Bible, and insist that they are the "covenant people".

To what are they covenanted to? The Church's investment portfolio was leaked to Mormon Wikileaks, and is $32 billion. Their real estate holdings are more than that. They could put all of the homeless services and shelters downtown out of business for 1000 years if they chose to, but The Road Home (the largest shelter) begs for donations from the public every single year to remain in operation.

You're keeping on?

If I gave tithes to the Mormons I'd hope they wouldn't use them to turn Utah into the nation's homeless capitol.

 

[Archie Moses]

I definitely judge the **** out of people.

The annoying thing with judging is when people make their standards universal and look down on others who think differently and judge them for it.

 

[One Brow]

Does this create at least some of the epigenetic differences that many believe happen in people with autism, adhd, dysphoria, etc?

We know there is a strong genetic component to autism, and I can speak from personal experience that autistic children are different practically from birth, long before they feel any need to fit in.

As for gender dysphoria, we could just as easily surmise that those who are popular tend to suppress their dysphoria to maintain their popularity. I agree there is no good take on what the cause is.

 

[Engorged On Unborn Gore]

You're keeping on?

Of course. Why wouldn’t I?

If I gave tithes to the Mormons I'd hope they wouldn't use them to turn Utah into the nation's homeless capitol.

That’s exactly what the scriptures suggest Zion should be. And they have the scratch to do it.

But you don’t have to worry about that at all. The LDS Institution operates like Nike or Apple. They give a modicum of their wealth worldwide (1 billion in the last 30 years), but their primary focus is on maximizing their own profits.

 

[Archie Moses]

They give a modicum of their wealth worldwide (1 billion in the last 30 years), but their primary focus is on maximizing their own profits.

Sounds fair to me tbh.

 

[Engorged On Unborn Gore]

Sounds fair to me tbh.

It’s only fair until you realize that they are a nonprofit 501(c). And they also get to call the shots on local legislation regarding liquor, marijuana, etc.

For-profit businesses should be taxed the same way as Nike and Apple.

 

[Archie Moses]

It’s only fair until you realize that they are a nonprofit 501(c). And they also get to call the shots on local legislation regarding liquor, marijuana, etc.

For-profit businesses should be taxed the same way as Nike and Apple.

I realize that and I still think it's fair. They're following their best interests within the means of the law.

I imagine, the vast majority of people, organizations, churches, etc would do the same. I mean, can you give me an example of someone breaking this mold and not serving their best interests?

Whether you think they should or shouldn't be taxed is irrelevant unless you're voting.

 

[fishonjazz]

LOL, like weed but without the hallucinations.

I have never known anyone who claimed to have hallucinations on weed.

I was going to chime in with a similar comment

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[Engorged On Unborn Gore]

I imagine, the vast majority of people, organizations, churches, etc would do the same.

This sounds like the common formula for a mediocre country. So, by “fair” you mean the common natural selection of social Darwinism that capitalists preach as fair.

The United States has been a party to all sorts of abusive shenanigans that disenfranchise and abandon lower class peoples based on this rationale.

It’s no wonder that drug addict‘s are ****ed in this country.

Now that opioid addiction has shifted into the suburbs, though, such Darwinist and capitalist thinking is going to come face to face with more of us personally. Addiction and homelessness will increase, and we will wave goodbye helplessly to loved ones who slip into that other America.

*shrug, But who gives a ****. Everyone’s doing it. **** anyone who doesn’t have the money to belong in this country.

 

[Archie Moses]

This sounds like the common formula for a mediocre country. So, by “fair” you mean the common natural selection of social Darwinism that capitalists preach as fair.

The United States has been a party to all sorts of abusive shenanigans that disenfranchise and abandon lower class peoples based on this rationale.

It’s no wonder that drug addict‘s are ****ed in this country.

Now that opioid addiction has shifted into the suburbs, though, such Darwinist and capitalist thinking is going to come face to face with more of us personally. Addiction and homelessness will increase, and we will wave goodbye helplessly to loved ones who slip into that other America.

*shrug, But who gives a ****. Everyone’s doing it. **** anyone who doesn’t have the money to belong in this country.

No doubt our country and government has a lot of problems. I personally think churches should be taxed too. The part I don't understand is how many people get so fixated, annoyed, upset with churches when they follow the system in place. It took until this post to see where your problem is and I get it.

That said, bitching about churches not paying taxes online or using their money how they see fit seems like a bitter waste of energy and time to me. I guess people seem so wronged by them - I don't get it. Kind of silly to get so bitter/worked up over.

They donated 10 million dollars to the homeless in SLC recently. They've donated millions more elsewhere. Their members, who believe in the church, pay tithing because they believe in it. They also make smart business decisions that allows their church to grow. They're invested in politics in the state they founded (while annoying, it's not shocking and predictable.)

I don't know, man. You don't do things they believe in. They don't do things you believe in. To me, seems fair.

 

[Engorged On Unborn Gore]

I don't know, man. You don't do things they believe in. They don't do things you believe in. To me, seems fair.

Maybe it's that simple for you. Maybe you never covenanted to build Zion only to have them build a shopping mall with a retractable roof. Maybe their policy on not baptizing the children of gay couples never made any kids you know into second class primary fodder. On top of all of the hypocrisy toward the poor, none of this is fair at all. I completely disagree.

Fairness, equity, justice, Etc., when not implemented to begin with, usually find a way into the equation in distorted ways no one wants. For the French in the 18th century, fairness manifested itself as decapitations. Roman, Ottoman, British, Etc., Etc., all through history. After getting their asses kicked out of the US 170 years ago, the Church has grafted itself into the "American Dream" so completely that they are almost unrecognizable from what they started as. They will share the US's doomed fate as history repeats itself.