Racist warriors fans

[JFFR]

I think the fan in GS was part owner of the warriors which would mean he is rich as **** which explains the 500,000

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What if he refuses to pay the fine?

I'm more in favor of banning him for life. The fine seems weird. I mean, how did they come up with the number? Why $500,000? Why not $100,000? or $25,000? Is it because he's a billionaire? Would a guy with only 100 million get fined less?

I remember when Coach Pop got fined $250k for resting players. That was 2012. In 2019 it is common practice. I remember thinking back then that if I was Coach Pop I would have refused to pay it or gone to court over it. I'm no lawyer and I'm not familiar with the league's by-laws, but these fines seem crazy.

 

[fishonjazz]

What if he refuses to pay the fine?

I'm more in favor of banning him for life. The fine seems weird. I mean, how did they come up with the number? Why $500,000? Why not $100,000? or $25,000? Is it because he's a billionaire? Would a guy with only 100 million get fined less?

I remember when Coach Pop got fined $250k for resting players. That was 2012. In 2019 it is common practice. I remember thinking back then that if I was Coach Pop I would have refused to pay it or gone to court over it. I'm no lawyer and I'm not familiar with the league's by-laws, but these fines seem crazy.

I definitely think the amount is due to his wealth. And I think that's the way it should be.


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[Stoked]

**** you.


Am I doing it right?

Lol, close enough for me

 

[lauriandres]

I definitely think the amount is due to his wealth. And I think that's the way it should be.


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How is it possible in USA that a private company can issue a fine - is it same from the legal point of view that police gives you when you have some traffic violations etc.?
Technically, can NBA fine any random person and if he is a foreigner and refuses to pay, then in theory he might receive some jail or court time should he step on the US soil?

 

[jimmy eat jazz]

Mark Stevens isn’t a bad guy, just made a stupid mistake. He apologized publicly and privately for his actions. Accepted his penalty without complaint. No racist undertones for any of this.

Shane Kiesel was an ***. He acted like an *** and then failed to own up to it. I’m still not sure that it was racist, but it was certainly offensive and over the line. Maybe it was racist. I thought it seemed more homophobic tbh. I still think part of the severity of the situation was due to Westbrook’s visceral reaction. With that said, I still think the lifetime ban was justified.

My only question is why can Drake pull similar ******** without any penalty? His antics certainly cross lines as well. I think it’s hilarious for any Raptors player or fan to call foul when they won’t say **** about Drake.

THIS (Drake) is the burr up my behind on this issue. Why is Drake allowed to get away with behavior that no other fan would? Because he's a celebrity, that's why. Celebrities enjoy enormous privileges not afforded to other people, and while I understand why that occurs (humans have always been obsessed with celebrity), it annoys me to no end. If this had been just another fan, no way in hell he/she would have gotten away with it. Hold celebrities to the same standards/rules as the rest of us, they really don't need yet more privileges. Next time he does something like this, kick his *** out of the game like they would anyone else.

 

[Hekate]

Insecure defensive reactions are quite a bit more than I expected.

 

[hgb]

How is it possible in USA that a private company can issue a fine - is it same from the legal point of view that police gives you when you have some traffic violations etc.?
Technically, can NBA fine any random person and if he is a foreigner and refuses to pay, then in theory he might receive some jail or court time should he step on the US soil?

I doubt they can, but they can probably say "$500K and a year, or banned forever, your choice".

 

[JFFR]

How is it possible in USA that a private company can issue a fine - is it same from the legal point of view that police gives you when you have some traffic violations etc.?
Technically, can NBA fine any random person and if he is a foreigner and refuses to pay, then in theory he might receive some jail or court time should he step on the US soil?

They can fine members of their own organization. That being said, if I was Coach Pop and David Stern fined my $250k for resting my players, I'd fight it in court.

 

[Jonah]

How is it possible in USA that a private company can issue a fine - is it same from the legal point of view that police gives you when you have some traffic violations etc.?
Technically, can NBA fine any random person and if he is a foreigner and refuses to pay, then in theory he might receive some jail or court time should he step on the US soil?

As others have said the NBA can only fine members of the Association (e.g., owners and players) under threat of banning or terminating membership and contracts. The NBA has no authority to fine fans, their only power is to ban us from arenas and/or invalidate tickets. Police have the power of law behind them, the NBA has only their own rules which fans are free to ignore.

 

[New_Jazz_Order]

500,000 for what ? Silver is a poss. Warriors guy didn't do nothing really. Lowry is a pussssssssy.

 

[Stoked]

I definitely think the amount is due to his wealth. And I think that's the way it should be.


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I don’t. I think things should be equal across the board as far as this goes.

 

[JazzyFresh]

So when Rodney Hood slaps a cell phone out of a fans hands, why isn't he suspended for a season?

 

[fishonjazz]

I don’t. I think things should be equal across the board as far as this goes.

So you think that a 1000 fine levied on me is the same punishment/deterrent as a 1000 dollar fine on a billionaire?

I think that i would be ****ed by having to come up with 1000 dollars to pay a fine. I dont think a billionaire would really give a ****.


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[Stoked]

So you think that a 1000 fine levied on me is the same punishment/deterrent as a 1000 dollar fine on a billionaire?

I think that i would be ****ed by having to come up with 1000 dollars to pay a fine. I dont think a billionaire would really give a ****.


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I think that the punishment for you should be the same as him. Should you pay 500k?

Justice is justice and shouldn’t it be blind?

 

[Gameface]

I think that the punishment for you should be the same as him. Should you pay 500k?

Justice is justice and shouldn’t it be blind?

In our justice system there are two types of compensation that can be awarded to a victim.

Compensatory: This is an amount directly linked to the amount of demonstrable loss the victim can prove. So if someone broke your leg with a baseball bat, you would get the amount of money it cost in medical bills, the amount of money you lost by not being able to work, etc.

Punitive: This award has NOTHING to do with the victim. This is an amount intended to punish the guilty party and the size of this award is partially based on an amount of money that would discourage the guilty party from engaging in similar behavior in the future. So for instance, when McDonald's has over 700 reported cases of people being severely injured by their very abnormally hot coffee being served in a cup that has shown a significant tendency to fail under normal use that multi billion dollar company has to pay around $1 million in punitive damages in the hope that they will take reasonable precautions to protect customers from literally life threatening burns.

So justice absolutely recognizes that the punishment has to fit the person being punished.

 

[Stoked]

In our justice system there are two types of compensation that can be awarded to a victim.

Compensatory: This is an amount directly linked to the amount of demonstrable loss the victim can prove. So if someone broke your leg with a baseball bat, you would get the amount of money it cost in medical bills, the amount of money you lost by not being able to work, etc.

Punitive: This award has NOTHING to do with the victim. This is an amount intended to punish the guilty party and the size of this award is partially based on an amount of money that would discourage the guilty party from engaging in similar behavior in the future. So for instance, when McDonald's has over 700 reported cases of people being severely injured by their very abnormally hot coffee being served in a cup that has shown a significant tendency to fail under normal use that multi billion dollar company has to pay around $1 million in punitive damages in the hope that they will take reasonable precautions to protect customers from literally life threatening burns.

So justice absolutely recognizes that the punishment has to fit the person being punished.

To me a mark of a man is admitting when he’s wrong.

I stand corrected. @Bulletproof thanks. I have to think this over. Challenging to say the least.

 

[Zombie]

To me a mark of a man is admitting when he’s wrong.

I stand corrected. @Bulletproof thanks. I have to think this over. Challenging to say the least.

This is why you are one of the consistently great posters round these parts.

 

[sahlensguy]

I doubt Lowry takes that same shot at a fan during a home game. He took advantage of the situation and didn't care if someone got knocked out. Punk move. He deserved to get shoved.

 

[The Thriller]

I doubt Lowry takes that same shot at a fan during a home game. He took advantage of the situation and didn't care if someone got knocked out. Punk move. He deserved to get shoved.

This is horse ****. I 100 percent guarantee that Lowry dives for a loose ball at home.

The amount of posters writing as if Lowry had malicious intentions against warriors fans is disturbing. No wonder why paranoid *** clowns like Alex Jones are so popular in this country. Lowry was merely going for a loose ball to win a championship.

 

[str8line]

This is horse ****. I 100 percent guarantee that Lowry dives for a loose ball at home.

The amount of posters writing as if Lowry had malicious intentions against warriors fans is disturbing. No wonder why paranoid *** clowns like Alex Jones are so popular in this country. Lowry was merely going for a loose ball to win a championship.

I think Lowry just made a judgment in that instant that he might be able to save the ball and he went for it. It was a bad judgment though and became reckless towards those fans. I'd be pissed if I were that fan too. It was a really dangerous move. But **** happens... including a shove. And then you move on. I think Lowry should have been immediately apologetic to the fans for putting them in harms way and afterwards the owner should have quickly apologized to Lowry to the tune of, "sorry man but you came in like a freight train and my reaction was that I was pissed about it". Then they could have met the next day and the guy could have as an owner apologized and brought awareness to fan/player interactions and Lowry could have apologized for misjudging it and going a little too hard into the crowd and explained that it was unintentional.