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Utah Jazz Players in the FIBA World Cup(in China)

fishonjazz said:
Anybody see the three point competition between Spida and kemba? I have yet to see it but a co worker watched it and said that they each made like 18 threes in a row before anyone missed

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They probably each hit like 7-8, then it went to another cut where they each hit 4-5.
 
Douchebag K said:
One move is all he needs, a little hook shot that he can use to take advantage of a mismatch from a switch That is all.
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Uhhh wouldn't a hook shot be a post move? I would say so. He's not hooking it from the free throw line he would be hooking it from the post. It seems to me you just agreed with me. I'm not saying he needs to be a constant threat every trip down the floor, but he does need to be a bigger threat than he is. A sky hook or any consistent hook would be huge.

fishonjazz said:
You were saying that him having a floater is pointless. But here you are talking pick and roll so....... How about a pick and roll and when the defender is there to prevent Rudy from getting to the rim he uses a floater (I have already seen him do this btw)? See how that could be a good thing?

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Oh yeah, I would have no problem with that. Usually though he gets the ball within 10 feet of the rim, and doesn't need it but you're right, sometimes it's useful. I would also like to see him hit that 17 footer. But honest question, what does him developing a go to post move hurt and why on Earth are you dudes so against it? Maybe I'm old school but it makes zero sense for him not to. Apparently he scored 6 points today on the post. Obviously it has its usefulness.
 
JazzyFresh said:
Uhhh wouldn't a hook shot be a post move? I would say so. He's not hooking it from the free throw line he would be hooking it from the post. It seems to me you just agreed with me. I'm not saying he needs to be a constant threat every trip down the floor, but he does need to be a bigger threat than he is. A sky hook or any consistent hook would be huge.



Oh yeah, I would have no problem with that. Usually though he gets the ball within 10 feet of the rim, and doesn't need it but you're right, sometimes it's useful. I would also like to see him hit that 17 footer. But honest question, what does him developing a go to post move hurt and why on Earth are you dudes itso against? Maybe I'm old school but it makes zero sense for him not to. Apparently he scored 6 points today on the post. Obviously it has its usefulness.
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you made it sound like just throwing him the ball in the post.

Jazzy you living in the past brother, with patrick ewing and those types of dinosaurs ... Come join us in the present my friend
 
JazzyFresh said:
Uhhh wouldn't a hook shot be a post move? I would say so. He's not hooking it from the free throw line he would be hooking it from the post. It seems to me you just agreed with me. I'm not saying he needs to be a constant threat every trip down the floor, but he does need to be a bigger threat than he is. A sky hook or any consistent hook would be huge.



Oh yeah, I would have no problem with that. Usually though he gets the ball within 10 feet of the rim, and doesn't need it but you're right, sometimes it's useful. I would also like to see him hit that 17 footer. But honest question, what does him developing a go to post move hurt and why on Earth are you dudes so against it? Maybe I'm old school but it makes zero sense for him not to. Apparently he scored 6 points today on the post. Obviously it has its usefulness.
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I'm not against it just don't think he or the jazz need it

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53 is a cool number.

I really don’t understand why NBA players are so ordinary when it comes to choosing their numbers.
 
latin jazz said:
Why do we want Rudy to play and create from the post? That's not who he is and it's a bad shoot anyway. He would benefit from a floater or a close range shoot when the defense collapse on a roll though
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When the modern, switchy defensive scheme puts a wing or a guard on him, it would be good for him to be able to make them pay.
 
NUMBERICA said:
When the modern, switchy defensive scheme puts a wing or a guard on him, it would be good for him to be able to make them pay.
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So you agreeing with what I was saying all along during all Houston series. Because he couldn’t score on Harden, Tucker or whoever ended up guarding him in the post after those switches.
 
MVP said:
So you agreeing with what I was saying all along during all Houston series. Because he couldn’t score on Harden, Tucker or whoever ended up guarding him in the post after those switches.
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You were saying that Rudy is like the 7th best center or some **** not that you wish Rudy could take advantage of some mismatches once in a while.

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fishonjazz said:
You were saying that Rudy is like the 7th best center or some **** not that you wish Rudy could take advantage of some mismatches once in a while.

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Thats all my point was - that he needs to improve and develop more skills before he can be considered top 3 center. Now all it takes is to use switching defense and he becomes liability?
 
MVP said:
Thats all my point was - that he needs to improve and develop more skills before he can be considered top 3 center. Now all it takes is to use switching defense and he becomes liability?
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Considered by you, is what you mean.

The rest of the NBA has already put him at top 3. He was DPOY 2 years in a row and All-NBA 2X. He was 2nd team and 3rd team. Which means the NBA considered him the 2nd and 3rd best center in the NBA those years.

Adding extra skills could move him even higher and they could help the team win more.

Although its arguable what would actually help the team win more. He is already elite as a screen man and in the pick and roll. He is extremely efficient at the points he gets and he spaces the floor more than any player on our team by a significant amount. Adding a less efficient shot might not actually help our team more.

Gobert just had the 10th best season of any player ever in the NBA and ABA for TS%. There are only 6 players that have had a better season efficiency wise and 2 of those are really low volume players that averaged 6 ppg.

I am not sure why people keep saying he doesnt create for himself or get his own baskets. Who cares about that, its 5 on 5 not 1 on 1.

There are things he can improve to make him a better player. But that can be said of every player in the NBA.
 
MVP said:
Thats all my point was - that he needs to improve and develop more skills before he can be considered top 3 center. Now all it takes is to use switching defense and he becomes liability?
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He already a top 3 center doe. Could he get even better? Im gonna say yes.


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JazzyFresh said:
Why would we want a center to develop a post move?' I'm legitimately confused here. Why wouldn't we? A floater? Why does Rudy need a floater? Floaters are for dribblers that get into the lane. As fat as a "close range shot", the only way he gets that is by posting up. How else is he getting the ball that close?
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Ugh, no. Most of the time he can get close to the basket by rollin. And is working as demonstrated by his dunk season record. However, he would benefit by using a floater/push shot when the defense collapses or switches (he has used the shot several times but is not there yet). You don't want Rudy to create his offense from the post. Maybe you should try to convince the Jazz coaches and see how it goes. Keep us posted
 
latin jazz said:
Ugh, no. Most of the time he can get close to the basket by rollin. And is working as demonstrated by his dunk season record. However, he would benefit by using a floater/push shot when the defense collapses or switches (he has used the shot several times but is not there yet). You don't want Rudy to create his offense from the post. Maybe you should try to convince the Jazz coaches and see how it goes. Keep us posted
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Bloody hell it doesn't take an ounce of basketball IQ to realize him having a move down low would be beneficial. Lol a center with floater. Name one HoF center with a floater. I can name many with a post move.
 
MVP said:
I don’t agree about top 3 ( mostly because on how he was ineffective vs Houston two years in a row) but that’s ok. Everybody is entitled to their opinion.
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I don't agree with using the smallest sample size to evaluate a player but that also ok as you are entitled to using whatever criteria you want, even if it's flawed and not the best criteria.

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