Zombie
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Do you mean 2009?
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President Harry Truman: "the buck stops here".("The buck stops here" is a phrase that was popularized by U.S. President Harry S. Truman, who kept a sign with that phrase on his desk in the Oval Office. The phrase refers to the notion that the President has to make the decisions and accept the ultimate responsibility for those decisions.)
So, how about Trump? He's the captain of the ship. The buck stops here, yes? Well...
Well, the testing gaffes, the CDC really dropped the ball, it happened under Trump's watch, and, although a week or so ago, he blamed it on Obama, of course, lol, he knows the buck stops with him. He'll step up to the plate and accept responsibility, right? Right?
Hmm. OK, well, the National Security Council's pandemic team, disbanded under his watch. He'll take responsibility, right? Right?
https://www.motherjones.com/coronavirus-updates/2020/03/trump-pandemic-white-house-budget-video/
“I just think that’s a nasty question.”
That was Trump’s response when, at Friday afternoon’s coronavirus press conference, PBS’s Yamiche Alcindor pressed the president about why he refused to take responsibility for disbanding the White House office for pandemic preparedness, in March 2018.
“When you say me, I didn’t do it,” Trump scoffed. “I mean, you say we did that. I don’t know anything about it.”
In reality, the White House got rid of its global health security team in a 2018 John Bolton-led reshuffle. With the sudden departure of its leader, there was no top-ranking White House official looking after how the US should respond to crises like the coronavirus.
I remember candidate Trump saying "only I can fix it". But, now that he's president, if the fix gets screwed up, the buck sure doesn't stop at his desk. And, if he can blame Obama, well, that's his go to move....
So, how about Trump? He's the captain of the ship. The buck stops here, yes? Well...
Well, the testing gaffes, the CDC really dropped the ball, it happened under Trump's watch, and, although a week or so ago, he blamed it on Obama, of course, lol, he knows the buck stops with him. He'll step up to the plate and accept responsibility, right? Right?
Hmm. OK, well, the National Security Council's pandemic team, disbanded under his watch. He'll take responsibility, right? Right?
https://www.motherjones.com/coronavirus-updates/2020/03/trump-pandemic-white-house-budget-video/
“I just think that’s a nasty question.”
That was Trump’s response when, at Friday afternoon’s coronavirus press conference, PBS’s Yamiche Alcindor pressed the president about why he refused to take responsibility for disbanding the White House office for pandemic preparedness, in March 2018.
“When you say me, I didn’t do it,” Trump scoffed. “I mean, you say we did that. I don’t know anything about it.”
In reality, the White House got rid of its global health security team in a 2018 John Bolton-led reshuffle. With the sudden departure of its leader, there was no top-ranking White House official looking after how the US should respond to crises like the coronavirus.
I remember candidate Trump saying "only I can fix it". But, now that he's president, if the fix gets screwed up, the buck sure doesn't stop at his desk. And, if he can blame Obama, well, that's his go to move....
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Hey guys... hope everyone is safe around here.
My country just declared state of emergency yesterday at least for the next 1 month.
They are closing all schools, all kindergartens, all extracurricular activities in groups for schoolkids, all universities. Where possible, they will continue classes online.
They are banning all group events - concerts, sports events, theaters, clubs, conferences, etc.
Closing all non-essential stores - only food supermarkets and drug stores will be open.
The private businesses are advised to let their employees work from home when possible, and when not possible to conduct their business in extreme caution and measures - filters, masks, disinfection, screening for illness of all personnel in beginning of the work day, etc.
In order to lessen the burden on the healthcare system all non-essential surgeries and procedures are postponed. All organ transplants are postponed. All seasonal medical checks and immunizations are suspended... all hospital visits are suspended, etc.
I'm kind of surprised this happened. Usually our bureaucracy is horrible and the state is very slow to move. The first indications I got that they might actually have good people working on this and advising the decision-makers was a press-conference the other day where they mentioned they are monitoring how the disease is spreading in other countries and that we are just in the beginning of the curve of infections. I expected this will take a 100 people dying before they took measures for serious social distancing. We are severely short on medical supplies and equipment. I have no idea if this will work or to what extent it will work... who will watch the nurses' kids for example? Are we going to suffer shortage of medical workers? No idea. But I bet this wasn't an easy political decision to make. They've been doing good job explaining the measures and the situation and what's to be expected. I never was a fan of my country's administration and political class, but I kind of am glad they are taking measures somewhat preemptively, rather than waiting for the **** to hit the fan... which it very likely will(right now we have only 31 confirmed cases with 2 deaths).
Anyways... stay safe and good luck.
My country just declared state of emergency yesterday at least for the next 1 month.
They are closing all schools, all kindergartens, all extracurricular activities in groups for schoolkids, all universities. Where possible, they will continue classes online.
They are banning all group events - concerts, sports events, theaters, clubs, conferences, etc.
Closing all non-essential stores - only food supermarkets and drug stores will be open.
The private businesses are advised to let their employees work from home when possible, and when not possible to conduct their business in extreme caution and measures - filters, masks, disinfection, screening for illness of all personnel in beginning of the work day, etc.
In order to lessen the burden on the healthcare system all non-essential surgeries and procedures are postponed. All organ transplants are postponed. All seasonal medical checks and immunizations are suspended... all hospital visits are suspended, etc.
I'm kind of surprised this happened. Usually our bureaucracy is horrible and the state is very slow to move. The first indications I got that they might actually have good people working on this and advising the decision-makers was a press-conference the other day where they mentioned they are monitoring how the disease is spreading in other countries and that we are just in the beginning of the curve of infections. I expected this will take a 100 people dying before they took measures for serious social distancing. We are severely short on medical supplies and equipment. I have no idea if this will work or to what extent it will work... who will watch the nurses' kids for example? Are we going to suffer shortage of medical workers? No idea. But I bet this wasn't an easy political decision to make. They've been doing good job explaining the measures and the situation and what's to be expected. I never was a fan of my country's administration and political class, but I kind of am glad they are taking measures somewhat preemptively, rather than waiting for the **** to hit the fan... which it very likely will(right now we have only 31 confirmed cases with 2 deaths).
Anyways... stay safe and good luck.
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The Trump presidency is over. The Atlantic has a paywall after 5 articles, so I'm extracting key paragraphs. Well, I guess I always do, lol. Written by a life long Republican.
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/03/peter-wehner-trump-presidency-over/607969/
--To be sure, the president isn’t responsible for either the coronavirus or the disease it causes, COVID-19, and he couldn’t have stopped it from hitting our shores even if he had done everything right......
--That said, the president and his administration are responsible for grave, costly errors, most especially the epic manufacturing failures in diagnostic testing, the decision to test too few people, the delay in expanding testing to labs outside the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, and problems in the supply chain....
--We also know the World Health Organization had working tests that the United States refused, and researchers at a project in Seattle tried to conduct early tests for the coronavirus but were prevented from doing so by federal officials.
--But that’s not all. The president reportedly ignored early warnings of the severity of the virus and grew angry at a CDC official who in February warned that an outbreak was inevitable. The Trump administration dismantled the National Security Council’s global-health office, whose purpose was to address global pandemics; we’re now paying the price for that. “We worked very well with that office,” Fauci told Congress. “It would be nice if the office was still there.” We may face a shortage of ventilators and medical supplies, and hospitals may soon be overwhelmed, certainly if the number of coronavirus cases increases at a rate anything like that in countries such as Italy. (This would cause not only needless coronavirus-related deaths, but deaths from those suffering from other ailments who won’t have ready access to hospital care.)....
--Yet in some respects, the avalanche of false information from the president has been most alarming of all. It’s been one rock slide after another, the likes of which we have never seen. Day after day after day he brazenly denied reality, in an effort to blunt the economic and political harm he faced....
--The president’s misinformation and mendacity about the coronavirus are head-snapping. He claimed that it was contained in America when it was actually spreading. He claimed that we had “shut it down” when we had not. He claimed that testing was available when it wasn’t. He claimed that the coronavirus will one day disappear “like a miracle”; it won’t. He claimed that a vaccine would be available in months; Fauci says it will not be available for a year or more....
--Trump falsely blamed the Obama administration for impeding coronavirus testing....The president claimed that the number of cases in Italy was getting “much better” when it was getting much worse....Taken together, this is a massive failure in leadership that stems from a massive defect in character. Trump is such a habitual liar that he is incapable of being honest, even when being honest would serve his interests....
--Donald Trump is shrinking before our eyes.
The coronavirus is quite likely to be the Trump presidency’s inflection point, when everything changed, when the bluster and ignorance and shallowness of America’s 45th president became undeniable, an empirical reality, as indisputable as the laws of science or a mathematical equation....
--It has taken a good deal longer than it should have, but Americans have now seen the con man behind the curtain...His administration may stagger on, but it will be only a hollow shell. The Trump presidency is over.
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/03/peter-wehner-trump-presidency-over/607969/
--To be sure, the president isn’t responsible for either the coronavirus or the disease it causes, COVID-19, and he couldn’t have stopped it from hitting our shores even if he had done everything right......
--That said, the president and his administration are responsible for grave, costly errors, most especially the epic manufacturing failures in diagnostic testing, the decision to test too few people, the delay in expanding testing to labs outside the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, and problems in the supply chain....
--We also know the World Health Organization had working tests that the United States refused, and researchers at a project in Seattle tried to conduct early tests for the coronavirus but were prevented from doing so by federal officials.
--But that’s not all. The president reportedly ignored early warnings of the severity of the virus and grew angry at a CDC official who in February warned that an outbreak was inevitable. The Trump administration dismantled the National Security Council’s global-health office, whose purpose was to address global pandemics; we’re now paying the price for that. “We worked very well with that office,” Fauci told Congress. “It would be nice if the office was still there.” We may face a shortage of ventilators and medical supplies, and hospitals may soon be overwhelmed, certainly if the number of coronavirus cases increases at a rate anything like that in countries such as Italy. (This would cause not only needless coronavirus-related deaths, but deaths from those suffering from other ailments who won’t have ready access to hospital care.)....
--Yet in some respects, the avalanche of false information from the president has been most alarming of all. It’s been one rock slide after another, the likes of which we have never seen. Day after day after day he brazenly denied reality, in an effort to blunt the economic and political harm he faced....
--The president’s misinformation and mendacity about the coronavirus are head-snapping. He claimed that it was contained in America when it was actually spreading. He claimed that we had “shut it down” when we had not. He claimed that testing was available when it wasn’t. He claimed that the coronavirus will one day disappear “like a miracle”; it won’t. He claimed that a vaccine would be available in months; Fauci says it will not be available for a year or more....
--Trump falsely blamed the Obama administration for impeding coronavirus testing....The president claimed that the number of cases in Italy was getting “much better” when it was getting much worse....Taken together, this is a massive failure in leadership that stems from a massive defect in character. Trump is such a habitual liar that he is incapable of being honest, even when being honest would serve his interests....
--Donald Trump is shrinking before our eyes.
The coronavirus is quite likely to be the Trump presidency’s inflection point, when everything changed, when the bluster and ignorance and shallowness of America’s 45th president became undeniable, an empirical reality, as indisputable as the laws of science or a mathematical equation....
--It has taken a good deal longer than it should have, but Americans have now seen the con man behind the curtain...His administration may stagger on, but it will be only a hollow shell. The Trump presidency is over.
JazzyFresh
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Not surprising you won't answer my question as to why Americans will get sick at 2000% more than the rest of the world that you grossly fear mongered. Think about this... To hit your disgusting fear mongering deadly politically motivated idiotic numbers did you know it would take 1,600,000(BaSic MaThs) cases every day for 3 months to hit your disgusting fear mongering tweet?
So I ask again, what makes the US so much more susceptible than the rest of the world. Why are going to have millions a day while other countries have hundreds? It's an honest question...
JazzyFresh
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@Red rambling on when we don't even have a clue how this going to effect us. First he puts out absolutely idiotic numbers and now he's blaming the president for something that we don't even know what's going to happen. Crazy dude is living off of fairy tales.
It's almost(there's no almost) like youre salivating at the thought of people getting sick and dying. You will never admit it but you're enjoying this. You're actually helping spread the unnecessary panic.
It's almost(there's no almost) like youre salivating at the thought of people getting sick and dying. You will never admit it but you're enjoying this. You're actually helping spread the unnecessary panic.
JazzyFresh
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Yesterdays numbers
Todays numbers
The way I'm seeing it is that 93 new cases is about average. Not to mention we have a much higher population than most. Places like Switzerland and the Netherlands are getting hit hard while Iran and Spain are still getting dominated.
Denmark has about 1 in 244,000 getting it daily
US has about 1 in 3,500,000 getting it daily
But Trump ehh @Red?
Todays numbers
The way I'm seeing it is that 93 new cases is about average. Not to mention we have a much higher population than most. Places like Switzerland and the Netherlands are getting hit hard while Iran and Spain are still getting dominated.
Denmark has about 1 in 244,000 getting it daily
US has about 1 in 3,500,000 getting it daily
But Trump ehh @Red?
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He already referred you to ask the doctor that he quoted. Multiple times. Those weren't red's numbers. He got them from someone else so you will have to ask that person your questions that you demand answers to.
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