Emperor Obama

[babe]

I started out believing "Trump is Hillary's Perot", funny that rhymes with an obscene reference that amounts to essentially the same idea....

I still wonder if Trump is not, in ultimate essence, a "foil"..... a sort of public manipulation stunt, a very long-range darkside psy-op..... sorta like tricking the nutjobs out into the open.....

But the persistent hate level of the TrumpDumpsters had me believing he is genuine.

 

[fishonjazz]

There was a generally believed sentiment that republicans would never win another presidential election.

People thought that? Dummies. There will always be Republican presidents and there will always be Democratic presidents as long as the nation is as evenly split as it currently is (and has been) and we have a 2 party system.

I would like there to be no republican OR Democratic president. Would love to see an American president who wanted to represent and help all americans. Won't happen as long as there is so much vitriol and partisanship. Not enough incentive for change maybe. I don't know.

Politics sure do suck as they currently function in our collective every day life. They provide so much hate and negativity in the collective populations lives.

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[fishonjazz]

I started out believing "Trump is Hillary's Perot", funny that rhymes with an obscene reference that amounts to essentially the same idea....

I still wonder if Trump is not, in ultimate essence, a "foil"..... a sort of public manipulation stunt, a very long-range darkside psy-op..... sorta like tricking the nutjobs out into the open.....

But the persistent hate level of the TrumpDumpsters had me believing he is genuine.

So you determine whether someone is genuine or not by level of hate against them. The more hated they are the more genuine they are? Strange measuring stick. I know alot of fake *** people who are hated by everyone. Being hated doesn't equal being genuine.

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[infection]

I started out believing "Trump is Hillary's Perot",

 

[Ron Mexico]

So you determine whether someone is genuine or not by level of hate against them. The more hated they are the more genuine they are? Strange measuring stick. I know who out of fake *** people who a hated by everyone. Being hated doesn't equal being genuine.

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I guess Hillary Clinton is the most genuine human ever then right?

 

[One Brow]

Obama did increase the power of the presidential office. Some of what Trump is doing today is the fault of Obama for setting a precedent for a president to over step his office. Way too many executive orders from him.

Agreed. This has been the trend since Carter, and it gets worse with every President.

 

[One Brow]

I think that’s one of the things that fueled the reaction to the election of Trump.

No one has ramped up executive power more than Trump, and no one who listed to Trump's campaign should have been surprised by it.

 

[One Brow]

People thought that? Dummies. There will always be Republican presidents and there will always be Democratic presidents as long as the nation is as evenly split as it currently is (and has been) and we have a 2 party system.

Further, as the populace shifts in opinions from generation to generation, the parties will follow along and continue to split the vote.

 

[NAOS]

Obama did increase the power of the presidential office. Some of what Trump is doing today is the fault of Obama for setting a precedent for a president to over step his office. Way too many executive orders from him.

Lol, at a lot of that though.

I think that’s one of the things that fueled the reaction to the election of Trump. There was a generally believed sentiment that republicans would never win another presidential election if they didn’t ____ or if they continued to do ____, and the expansion of executive power was ignored and dismissed. I think a lot of people were confronted with that reality when they realized someone they didn’t want having all that power now had all that power. Up until that point, many were content with the expansion of executive power because they had no reason not to trust it, and couldn’t foresee it changing hands.

The executive branch can do nothing but contort itself (read: become corrupted) when Congress is in partisan deadlock. The core problem here comes down to all that is fueling the corruption of Party Politics. **** still has to get done, but through these gambits now.

The bigger scandal between Obama’s executive orders and what the DNC did to Bernie (one example among many in both parties)? Easily the latter.

 

[babe]

The executive branch can do nothing but contort itself (read: become corrupted) when Congress is in partisan deadlock. The core problem here comes down to all that is fueling the corruption of Party Politics. **** still has to get done, but through these gambits now.

The bigger scandal between Obama’s executive orders and what the DNC did to Bernie (one example among many in both parties)? Easily the latter.

Although I have always seen "America" as a social frontier with actual opportunity for the poor, the dispossessed, the downtrodden and the political refugees from counties already ossified with Establishment Power, and love the hope of a Constitutional Republic built on federalism..... the splitting or sharing of power geographically towards the nearest possible governance, with lots of checks and balances against any concentration of power at any level...….

I just want you to know your opinion here is dead right.

The reality we have now is "The Club" as perhaps generally cultivated by the Council on Foreign Relations, which invites new members and provides indoctrinating speakers to monthly meetings, provides a leading magazine I subscribe to and read, and opportunities for social and business networking. And a sort of code of behavior. Non-attribution. You're not supposed to carry gossip about others in the club. Someone grossly violated that code when they took a video, by phone most likely, of Joe Biden bragging about how he school Ukraine into submiission, and let it loose publicly. I bet that person lost his membership, for life.

The CFR is a sort of glue that makes Establishment Dems and Republicans a sort of UniParty.

Trump even went to the national CFR chief and sought support for his candidacy. But with a radical departure from the general globalism of the day like MAGA, he drew fire instead.

I share the concern expressed above in several posts about Trump also exceeding his Constitutional authority, as he has done in signing some unconstitutional legislation and in trade dealing and the PanPanic measures.

 

[NAOS]

Although I have always seen "America" as a social frontier with actual opportunity for the poor, the dispossessed, the downtrodden and the political refugees from counties already ossified with Establishment Power, and love the hope of a Constitutional Republic built on federalism..... the splitting or sharing of power geographically towards the nearest possible governance, with lots of checks and balances against any concentration of power at any level...….

I just want you to know your opinion here is dead right.

The reality we have now is "The Club" as perhaps generally cultivated by the Council on Foreign Relations, which invites new members and provides indoctrinating speakers to monthly meetings, provides a leading magazine I subscribe to and read, and opportunities for social and business networking. And a sort of code of behavior. Non-attribution. You're not supposed to carry gossip about others in the club. Someone grossly violated that code when they took a video, by phone most likely, of Joe Biden bragging about how he school Ukraine into submiission, and let it loose publicly. I bet that person lost his membership, for life.

The CFR is a sort of glue that makes Establishment Dems and Republicans a sort of UniParty.

Trump even went to the national CFR chief and sought support for his candidacy. But with a radical departure from the general globalism of the day like MAGA, he drew fire instead.

I share the concern expressed above in several posts about Trump also exceeding his Constitutional authority, as he has done in signing some unconstitutional legislation and in trade dealing and the PanPanic measures.

This is the babe I like. Legendary babe.

 

[sirkickyass]

Somehow it only gets crazier.