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Face to face school in the fall sounds like a cluster **** of the century. Davis is essentially going with regular school and schedule. No mask requirement. Jordan is going regular school with an online component and with an adjusted Friday schedule to clean the school. No mask requirement, no checking the kids temperatures, and no social distancing.

unsure what other districts are doing. I was waiting eagerly for what canyons, granite, and alpine.

My former colleagues have been blowing up my phone all day. Each day is going to be a super spreader. One of my friends who’s a VP in a local district came into contact with a sick teacher. She’s was tested and is now on day 5 of waiting for the test results.

How does this play out this fall?
 
The Thriller said:
Face to face school in the fall sounds like a cluster **** of the century. Davis is essentially going with regular school and schedule. No mask requirement. Jordan is going regular school with an online component and with an adjusted Friday schedule to clean the school. No mask requirement, no checking the kids temperatures, and no social distancing.

unsure what other districts are doing. I was waiting eagerly for what canyons, granite, and alpine.

My former colleagues have been blowing up my phone all day. Each day is going to be a super spreader. One of my friends who’s a VP in a local district came into contact with a sick teacher. She’s was tested and is now on day 5 of waiting for the test results.

How does this play out this fall?
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Probably poorly. Fall sports are going to be a nightmare if offseason practices are any indication.
 
Red said:
I was under the impression that this was already well known....

www.cnn.com

Coronavirus can float in air and WHO and CDC should tell people that, experts say

Coronavirus can be airborne and these 239 scientists want people to know about aerosol and droplet transmission of Covid-19.
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academic.oup.com

It Is Time to Address Airborne Transmission of Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19)

We appeal to the medical community and to the relevant national and international bodies to recognize the potential for airborne spread of coronavirus dise
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virus hitching rides on floater particles. need to clean air in HVAC ducts. summer AC. social distance 10X AS RELEVANT.
 
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The Thriller said:
Face to face school in the fall sounds like a cluster **** of the century. Davis is essentially going with regular school and schedule. No mask requirement. Jordan is going regular school with an online component and with an adjusted Friday schedule to clean the school. No mask requirement, no checking the kids temperatures, and no social distancing.

unsure what other districts are doing. I was waiting eagerly for what canyons, granite, and alpine.

My former colleagues have been blowing up my phone all day. Each day is going to be a super spreader. One of my friends who’s a VP in a local district came into contact with a sick teacher. She’s was tested and is now on day 5 of waiting for the test results.

How does this play out this fall?
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ONLINE SCHOOL.
 
The Thriller said:
Right? At last count 6 schools are in quarantine. And the season hasn’t even started. Lol
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Most teachers are going to end up teaching behind plexiglass just like at Maverik. And that’s not a joke - they are putting up shields for teachers that want them.

America is in quarantine, but we were placed there by the rest of the world who won’t allow us in now.
 
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Avery said:
Most teachers are going to end up teaching behind plexiglass just like at Maverik. And that’s not a joke - they are putting up shields for teachers that want them.

America is in quarantine, but we were placed there by the rest of the world who won’t allow us in now.
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I don’t think most will. There might be some plexiglass. But I don’t think many will teach behind it
 
The Thriller said:
This isn’t gonna end well...

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Honestly it's gonna end okay.

Are people gonna get COVID-19? Yes. Are school aged kids going to die? No. Will many of them infect the people they live with, including elderly grandparents or people with underlying conditions? Yes, but people at high risk should be making plans now to eliminate contact with people who will be exposed in school, work, social interactions.

So yeah, it's gonna be kinda bad. Infectious diseases sure do suck, and they sure do kill people.

Have we ever responded to an infectious disease the way we have to COVID-19 in the last 100 years? Nope. We've let people die. Just like we let people die on our highways. Just like we let people die from cigarettes, or opioids.

I'm all for reasonable precautions. I'm all for personal responsibility.

Make masks mandatory. Make social distancing guidelines legally enforceable.

We can't contain or stop this. The cats out of the bag. We had a chance in March. We don't have the ability to stop this now. Strap in and enjoy the ride... let the people with underlying conditions know you love them.

See you in 2022.
 
Gameface said:
Honestly it's gonna end okay.

Are people gonna get COVID-19? Yes. Are school aged kids going to die? No. Will many of them infect the people they live with, including elderly grandparents or people with underlying conditions? Yes, but people at high risk should be making plans now to eliminate contact with people who will be exposed in school, work, social interactions.

So yeah, it's gonna be kinda bad. Infectious diseases sure do suck, and they sure do kill people.

Have we ever responded to an infectious disease the way we have to COVID-19 in the last 100 years? Nope. We've let people die. Just like we let people die on our highways. Just like we let people die from cigarettes, or opioids.

I'm all for reasonable precautions. I'm all for personal responsibility.

Make masks mandatory. Make social distancing guidelines legally enforceable.

We can't contain or stop this. The cats out of the bag. We had a chance in March. We don't have the ability to stop this now. Strap in and enjoy the ride... let the people with underlying conditions know you love them.

See you in 2022.
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Davis, Jordan, and now Canyons have just released their plans. No social distancing, no temperature screenings, and masks are recommended but not required for students.
I still have to review Nebo’s and Provo’s.

Sending students and educators prematurely when the pandemic is ravaging and without the ability to require masks from students or to socialdistance is ridiculous. Districts in our state need to focus on getting better at online learning to ensure safety. Instead, they’re caving to political pressure and are sentencing a certain amount of their employees to die. This isn’t ethical or reasonable. Literally, no other western democracy is doing what we’re doing.
 
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Gameface said:
We can't contain or stop this. The cats out of the bag. We had a chance in March. We don't have the ability to stop this now. Strap in and enjoy the ride... let the people with underlying conditions know you love them.

See you in 2022.
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Strap in and enjoy the ride? Dude, we're the laughing stock of the ****ing world right now. Countries that we've collectively thumbed our noses at for decades have run rings around us in terms of handling this.

This has been an absolute humiliation at almost every single level.
 
Gameface said:
We can't contain or stop this. The cats out of the bag. We had a chance in March. We don't have the ability to stop this now. Strap in and enjoy the ride... let the people with underlying conditions know you love them.
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As life long loners, my wife and I have no problem avoiding people. Most days. But we need our state to keep mandatory face masks in place. One infectious disease specialist said yesterday that masks will be needed for years. Other specialists are saying the virus, here in the states, has mutated to a form that spreads easier, but is not as fatal. Average age in states experiencing surges seems to be people in their 30’s now. It will be tough to survive this I imagine, because I do believe you are right, it’s too late to stop what is presently unfolding. I am very disciplined, and will take every precaution to survive. My final words will not be to curse Trump. I won’t let him have that power over me.
 
Gameface said:
Honestly it's gonna end okay.

Are people gonna get COVID-19? Yes. Are school aged kids going to die? No. Will many of them infect the people they live with, including elderly grandparents or people with underlying conditions? Yes, but people at high risk should be making plans now to eliminate contact with people who will be exposed in school, work, social interactions.

So yeah, it's gonna be kinda bad. Infectious diseases sure do suck, and they sure do kill people.

Have we ever responded to an infectious disease the way we have to COVID-19 in the last 100 years? Nope. We've let people die. Just like we let people die on our highways. Just like we let people die from cigarettes, or opioids.

I'm all for reasonable precautions. I'm all for personal responsibility.

Make masks mandatory. Make social distancing guidelines legally enforceable.

We can't contain or stop this. The cats out of the bag. We had a chance in March. We don't have the ability to stop this now. Strap in and enjoy the ride... let the people with underlying conditions know you love them.

See you in 2022.
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This is a complete swing and a miss, GF. Little kids have died from this. Let’s say they don’t though but there is still poor direction from leaders in government and school districts on wearing masks, social distancing and the like as Thriller has mentioned. If that happens, then the outcome is obvious. A lot more kids are gonna get it and even if they don’t die as you’ve poorly assumed since some kids have died from this, they’ll still spread it to educators and other adults in their life who certainly will die from this.

We are filling out a survey right now for my rising first grader’s school. In it they ask about options. The two options are:

1. Masks all day for all students but because all students are present, no social distancing
2. Split schedules with less students in the class (1/3 or 1/2 the amount) but masks aren’t mandatory.

I certainly don’t want number one. Masks or not, it appears that many people in one confined spot has netted really bad results. And it’s not as if kids aren’t gonna take their masks off during lunch or because they’ll forget here and there because they’re little kids. My bigger problem is with number two though. I do believe we should have a split schedule of sorts. 1/3 or so remote for parents who want that, 1/3 on an A day, 1/3 on a B day. Instead of having 24 kids in a class, there will be 8. However, those kids should still be wearing masks. Thinking 9-11 people per room is okay and that no germs can spread is ****ing dumb. Be smart. Step one is spreading kids out into thirds. Good. Don’t then let your guard down and say okay, now we don’t need to wear masks.

This is Thriller’s issue. Poor direction by those in charge. And it’s a legitimate one. My guess here in NJ is that we’ll either never see the classroom or that if we do, we’ll be remote by mid-October at the latest.
 
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candrew said:
Let's face it, he's right. 400 - 600 people dying a day is apparently an acceptable number to people.
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To a % of the population, it is. The mantra of many of those is survival of the fittest, just don't make me change my plans. It's why you see swamped pool parties and political rallies with no enforced precautions.

But more people think Covid is an issue vs. those that don't and those people are pretty clear about how they'll vote in November.
 
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Gameface said:
Are school aged kids going to die? No.
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The correct answer is "several", and more that will have life-long complications.

Gameface said:
Have we ever responded to an infectious disease the way we have to COVID-19 in the last 100 years? Nope. We've let people die. Just like we let people die on our highways. Just like we let people die from cigarettes, or opioids.
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Which of those other diseases caused 125K+ deaths in five months?

All of the choices we are facing are terrible, but let's not underplay their consequences as a result.
 
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