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Anderson Cooper bought stock in ANTIFA because everyone's a secret muslim.
 
LogGrad98 said:
Anderson Cooper bought stock in ANTIFA because everyone's a secret muslim.
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Damn I want in on some of that sweet ANTIFA stock! Can I purchase it through the Robinhood app? From what I hear they are everywhere, around every corner, behind every public disturbance, responsible for pretty much every act of vandalism and make one hell of a mean milkshake. With market share like that this thing is going to the moon!
 
Gameface said:
Damn I want in on some of that sweet ANTIFA stock! Can I purchase it through the Robinhood app? From what I hear they are everywhere, around every corner, behind every public disturbance, responsible for pretty much every act of vandalism and make one hell of a mean milkshake. With market share like that this thing is going to the moon!
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Robinhood, no surprise, is restricting it right now, funneling money instead to the jewish laser project through the Soros account. Sorry.
 
Avery said:
You'd have better luck winning Powerball than finding 17 R senators who are going to vote to impeach. The majority don't even think it's constitutional so even if they believe he incited it, they won't vote to acquit. The cake is baked and example #1,463 of how spineless these folks are.

My guess would be that the final vote ends up around 54-46 - I think Romney, Sasse, Murkowski and Toomey vote to impeach. Collins will chicken out like she always does.

It honestly doesn't matter - Donald isn't going to run in 2024. Donny Jr. is going to be his puppet to continue his father's reign of douchiness.

What's crazy is if they would have delayed evacuating the chamber by 2-3 minutes, it's likely that we would have had a few politicians beaten or killed. Not everyone, but a few would have been caught in the quagmire. And if that would have happened, I think the outcome of this trial would be vastly different. But the lives of civilians and police officers unfortunately get treated different.
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Great post.
 
As a side note, the fact that the ‘jury’ (senators) can meet with the prosecution/defense extensively before the trial is lunacy.

Imagine a murder trial where three of the jurors coordinate with the prosecutor how they’re going to convince their peers to fry this dude regardless of how the case actually goes and pretend to show interest. We’d talk about an abandonment of justice and how a fair trial is a mirage.

Welcome to politics - check your human decency and decorum at the door.
 
Avery said:
As a side note, the fact that the ‘jury’ (senators) can meet with the prosecution/defense extensively before the trial is lunacy.

Imagine a murder trial where three of the jurors coordinate with the prosecutor how they’re going to convince their peers to fry this dude regardless of how the case actually goes and pretend to show interest. We’d talk about an abandonment of justice and how a fair trial is a mirage.

Welcome to politics - check your human decency and decorum at the door.
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That's a good point that I hadn't thought of

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thehill.com

Computer programmer downloaded key impeachment videos as Parler went offline

Much of the video footage presented by House impeachment managers in former President Trump’s Senate trial was downloaded from Parler by an anonymous programmer before the platform went offline.Ama…
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Exceptional archive of history here:
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What Parler Saw During the Attack on the Capitol

ProPublica sifted through thousands of videos taken by Parler users to create an immersive, first-person view of the Capitol riot as experienced by those who were there.
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Eenie-Meenie said:
I just read an article that shows that plans were made for the Insurrection the night before. This is really explosive. The author, Greg Palast, said this was shared with the House prosecution team but they never used it:

https://www.gregpalast.com/smoking-...-trumps-call-to-march-on-capitol-was-a-crime/
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I don't think the plan was to necessarily storm the capitol, take hostages and lives, but rather ratchet up so much tension that R senators and Pence gave in. Doubt anyone in the Trump camp thought hanging and murdering politicians was going to be a winning play.

However, you can't drum up support from thousands and thousands of kooks without finding a good chunk of them with their own agendas who really believe this is the end times.

Not exactly hard to find flat-earthers, people who believe cats are secretly Antifa and every Youtube video view is another virgin sacrificed to George Soros.
 
I wonder how the vote would go if it was a secret vote. Too bad they will vote their ambition instead of their conscience.

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JazzGal said:
I wonder how the vote would go if it was a secret vote. Too bad they will vote their ambition instead of their conscience.

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The guy instigated a deadly attack on our Congress and they still don't have the balls to do what's right. They are done. Cruz, Graham, et. al are underestimating how livid most of their base are. They'll lose huge in the next election as decent Republicans vote their conscience.
 
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Avery said:
I don't think the plan was to necessarily storm the capitol, take hostages and lives, but rather ratchet up so much tension that R senators and Pence gave in. Doubt anyone in the Trump camp thought hanging and murdering politicians was going to be a winning play.

However, you can't drum up support from thousands and thousands of kooks without finding a good chunk of them with their own agendas who really believe this is the end times.

Not exactly hard to find flat-earthers, people who believe cats are secretly Antifa and every Youtube video view is another virgin sacrificed to George Soros.
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I don't think the Trump group had a plan. They did not plan on hanging anyone and storming the capitol as it happened. But they sure as **** didn't fall over themselves trying to stop it either once they got the ball rolling. Trump sat there watching it on TV and just let it roll.

My personal opinion is that Trump wanted to see death. And he only finally reached out once it became evident he wasn't getting the blood he actually wanted.

My question is, if they had managed to get anyone to those gallows, would the slimey repubs defending Trump still be defending him? How many deaths would it have taken, considering it already cost what, 5? Isn't 5 enough?
 
I am thankful that this sham trial (not sham on evidence mind you, sham on it actually mattering) will wrap up quickly and we can move forward with actually getting things done.

If I'm Schumer, I'm pushing DC and PR statehood as priorities right away alongside any Covid relief. PR senate seats are not a slam dunk for D's and you can be the filibuster will be turned off for those votes (though PR statehood actually does have a bit of R support from both Florida senators).
 
It's pretty stupid to see the news media pretend like anything Trump's defense team says will actually make a difference. They literally could flip the entire Senate off and said that Trump wanted them all massacred and 45 Republicans would still vote to get him off because they don't want to anger their ****** voters and be primaried. Pretty sad.

I'm also finding it a self fulfilling prophecy:

1. Republican officials fail to stand up to Trump out of fear of the mob.
2. As a result, Trump and his followers become more emboldened and more misinformed.
3. Republican officials fail to stand up to Trump out of fear of the mob.

Republicans aren't ever going to break this cycle until they stand up to Trump and set their voters straight. They'll stay enslaved to Trump as long as they fail to fight back.
Which is why the rest of us sane and responsible Americans need to keep the mob and their politicians the hell away from government.
 
Avery said:
I am thankful that this sham trial (not sham on evidence mind you, sham on it actually mattering) will wrap up quickly and we can move forward with actually getting things done.

If I'm Schumer, I'm pushing DC and PR statehood as priorities right away alongside any Covid relief. PR senate seats are not a slam dunk for D's and you can be the filibuster will be turned off for those votes (though PR statehood actually does have a bit of R support from both Florida senators).
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Schumer can push covid relief in reconciliation. But DC and PR statehood will require blowing the filibuster.

I say blow it already. It should've never been enacted anyway (it wasn't at the time the Constitution was formed). We have a democracy to save. Blow the filibuster to expand voting rights, bolster Senate seats, and get things done. Otherwise, nothing is ever going to get done since neither party will ever have 60 votes. Republicans have zero incentive to make government work. Their entire platform right now is that government doesn't work. All they care about is ruling by executive order and giving tax cuts to the rich.

The failure to blow the filibuster to expand voting rights could come back very soon to bite every American in the backside when the next Republican comes in. They're not going to let mail-in voting and blacks derail their hold on power again.

Every failed democracy that has degraded into an authoritarian nightmare has reached inflection points where proponents of democracy could have stood up to the authoritarians and strengthened the guardrails of their democracy. For Germany, Bruning's administration didn't have to repeal the ban of the SA in 1932. Bruning's administration could have alleviated a lot of the economic pain in Germany by taking on French loans (instead, he exacerbated the effects of the Depression in an effort to repeal the Treaty of Versailles). Hindenburg didn't need to make Hitler Chancellor. Italy didn't need to keep Mussolini in power after he ordered the assassination of Matteoti in 1924. American bankers didn't need to do business with him anymore. Western powers could've joined together in the 1920s to get rid of Mussolini.

Likewise, what opportunities are we missing out today?
 
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Avery said:
I am thankful that this sham trial (not sham on evidence mind you, sham on it actually mattering) will wrap up quickly and we can move forward with actually getting things done.

If I'm Schumer, I'm pushing DC and PR statehood as priorities right away alongside any Covid relief. PR senate seats are not a slam dunk for D's and you can be the filibuster will be turned off for those votes (though PR statehood actually does have a bit of R support from both Florida senators).
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DC should be part of virginia or maryland. PR should just be part of like florida or a carolina or something.
 
LogGrad98 said:
DC should be part of virginia or maryland. PR should just be part of like florida or a carolina or something.
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Using this logic, do we need two Dakotas and two Carolinas to give Republicans more power? Cant wyoming be combined with Montana and Oklahoma into Texas? Why should Democratic voices be weakened while insurrections’ strengthened?

Are the dakotas really that different culturally?
I don’t get why PR and DC should be combined with existing states and not clearly have their voices heard, like the Dakotas.

Unless the point is to maintain the status quo of empowering rural areas, I don’t get why DC and PR should be absorbed into existing states.

Frankly, I’m tired of backwards states with out of touch voters keeping this country from making progress. The majority shouldn’t be held hostage to the minority. The founders never intended for this.
 
LogGrad98 said:
DC should be part of virginia or maryland. PR should just be part of like florida or a carolina or something.
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Serious or joshing? If serious, why?

I can kind of understand the physical ground argument against DC as a state, but don't really think it outweighs the # of people in DC. PR I don't think there's any serious argument to not extend an offer of statehood.
 
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