Retool around Donovan
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Without saying we could get Brown for the Gobert pieces (we couldn’t), doing so would have been a colossal failure because we should have dealt Mitchell for Brown or for pieces for Brown and paired him with Gobert, because that’s a contender. You would have also gotten spare change because Donovan’s perceived value being higher. Or even if the Gobert package somehow lands you Brown, and instead you traded Donovan for the Gobert package and you end up with:
Beverley
Brown
Bogdanovic
Vanderbilt
Gobert
I know that all of that is unlikely and not realistic, but so too is the idea that we’re going to be better off for having dealt Gobert.
Beverley
Brown
Bogdanovic
Vanderbilt
Gobert
I know that all of that is unlikely and not realistic, but so too is the idea that we’re going to be better off for having dealt Gobert.
Maybe. You'd have to get Ayton interested in the Jazz, of course, since he has a no-trade clause for a year.
I'm sure Danny's monitoring the Boston situation with Brown. For my part, I'd be surprised if he's gettable.
That would have been a wonderfully nasty lineup. Ah...Jazzfanz always gets me dreaming..lol.
Wait, is this hypothetical lineup based on trading Mitchell for the Gobert package then that package for Brown? How do parts of that package still end up in the Jazz starting lineup? Or what exactly are you saying? I'm kind of lost trying to read this.
(And I'm not entirely sure why you're commenting about the idea that we'll be better off for having dealt Gobert. That's the stuff of Lopo and SLC Dunk. It's not something I ever meant to imply by starting this thread.)
I’m responding to a statement of questioning whether we could land Brown with Gobert pieces. I don’t believe we can, but nevertheless entertained a hypothetical where we sent out Donovan in place of Rudy and then later grabbed Brown. I’m stating that a hypothetical like that is very low likelihood, enough so that we wouldn’t entertain it. I liken its likelihood of having been possible to the likelihood that us having dealt Gobert actually leaves us better off in the long run. Of course we wouldn’t entertain the idea that we could have landed Brown for Mitchell because, on top of everything else, that door has closed. But we’re willing to entertain the hypothetical that dealing Gobert will have left us better off, when all is said and done, partially because that is the current “reality hypothetical” that we’re in, even if I think the odds of a successful outcome related to that are not too dissimilar to the odds of us having been able to land Brown with Mitchell and been able to retain a couple of those other spare parts.
Who is doing this? I explicitly said in the message you're responding to that I'm not and that this was not the purpose of the thread.
Yes, it's true that we are currently without Gobert and with Mitchell. The likeliest outcome is that we'll be without both. But since it still remains technically possible to keep Mitchell, I didn't think that it's so strange to think through that possibility a bit.
So you're trying to present a parable? Using an impossible situation -- not only impossible because its possibility no longer exists in current reality, but also impossible because you seem to be simultaneously assigning Beverley and Vanderbilt to two teams -- Utah's starting lineup and Boston (as part of the hypothetical trade to get Brown) -- to compare to the possibility of being better off without Gobert (something that nobody here has asserted is likely)?
If your key point is that trading Gobert makes it very unlikely for the Jazz to be as good in the next few years as they were in the recent past, I agree. If your key point is something more than that, I confess I'm still lost.
We could easily get another star with the package we got for Gobert if the team wanted draft picks instead of win-now players. We literally got one of the top-5 trade hauls in NBA history for Gobert.
freakazoid
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There were 3 realistic options to begin with:
1- Keep both and move the chairs around
2- Trade both and rebuild
3- Trade Mitchell and retool around Rudy
Trading Gobert to retool around Mitchell would be beyond stupid. Once Gobert was traded, our fate was sealed.
1- Keep both and move the chairs around
2- Trade both and rebuild
3- Trade Mitchell and retool around Rudy
Trading Gobert to retool around Mitchell would be beyond stupid. Once Gobert was traded, our fate was sealed.
homeytennis
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OK say we roll with the roster as is including Mitchell and go out and sign Hassan Whiteside. I think that bunch of players has the potential to be pretty darn good.
mongoose01
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**** no! Dons gotta go he isn’t leading the Jazz anywhere. I don’t want to see another half *** retool around some sensitive wanna be.
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Miggs
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I’d argue anyone over 28.