The Biden Administration and All Things Politics

[Bucknutz]

What does "fix" the border mean?

Stop immigrants from coming here?
Stop refugees from requesting asylum?
Streamline the immigration process? Issue out more worker visas?
Militarize more/Demilitarize the border?
Build a wall?
Something else???

I think we need to agree first what it means when people say, "fix the border" since that can mean one thing to one person and something completely different to another.

Agreed. I stated my basic ideas of how to fix it.

Also, weren't Republicans just bitching like 5 mins ago about human trafficking and the long wait times in the service industry and the high cost of food?

Wow, these immigrants can only be forced to work in agriculture and service industries, or be apart of the sex trade? Maybe you're a bit racist here.

How can one be concerned with human trafficking and not be appalled by what Abbott and DeSantis are doing?

You consider bussing immigrants to other places in the US, human trafficking.
“the unlawful act of transporting or coercing people in order to benefit from their work or service, typically in the form of forced labor or sexual exploitation”
Neither of these things are happening.

How can one be angry about the worker shortage our country currently has but also discourage refugees and immigrants from coming here?

We want worker shortage right now due to inflation. When we have inflation, a method to combat it is for higher wages. If we have a huge pool of workers to choose from then business can keep wages low. Even right now our nations wage growth is raising at lower rate than inflation, which means most Americans are making less money now then from a year ago. Worker shortage gives workers an opportunity to negotiate better wages. So yes we want to discourage immigrants from coming here.

Rapid Wage Growth Keeps Pressure on U.S. Inflation

Pay increases have exceeded an annual 5% every month this year as companies vie for workers in tight job market, a factor contributing to four-decade high U.S. inflation.

www.wsj.com

I hope we aren't letting white grievance lead our views here on "the border crisis."

Why do you bring race into every topic. It’s not about their skin color. If Ukrainian's came here in millions, there would be the same issues.

 

[One Brow]

Wow, these immigrants can only be forced to work in agriculture and service industries ... ?

Forced? It's often a better opportunity that what they had at home. It's the job the non-refugee undocumented expect.

We want worker shortage right now due to inflation. When we have inflation, a method to combat it is for higher wages. If we have a huge pool of workers to choose from then business can keep wages low.

the primary reason for inflation is disruption of the market due to labor shortages, to my understanding. Inject labor, less inflation.

Why do you bring race into every topic. It’s not about their skin color. If Ukrainian's came here in millions, there would be the same issues.

I guarantee you that you won't see busload of Bosnian, Ukrainian, or any other European refugees shipped out on buses to other states.

For example, none of this community:

https://s3.amazonaws.com/texasbaptists/intercultural-ministry/BOSNIAN-COMMUNITY-OF-NORTH-TEXAS.pdf

 

[RandyForRubio]

Really? How so?

Could you quote what I said about this man hiding outside of a Supreme Court justice’s house? Was I supportive of this? I’d love to see this/these post/posts.

You wouldn’t be lying, would you? Or do you have me confused with another person in your life? Truly, I’d love to know what you’re alluding to here.

I'm rather positive you didn't blame his actions on liberals or democrats talking about how dangerous justices are, how Kavanaugh and Co don't deserve to be there, needto be stopped, etc, etc, etc.

You're not dumb. You know exactly how you're treating the situations differently. Don't play dumb, k? Thx bby.

 

[Deleted member 365]

I'm rather positive you didn't blame his actions on liberals or democrats talking about how dangerous justices are, how Kavanaugh and Co don't deserve to be there, needto be stopped, etc, etc, etc.

You're not dumb. You know exactly how you're treating the situations differently. Don't play dumb, k? Thx bby.

No no no, don’t you do this. You made a completely inappropriate and slanderous claim. Back it up with quotes, things I actually wrote, or apologize right now.

You’re not really this tribal, dishonest, and classless, are you?

 

[RandyForRubio]

Forced? It's often a better opportunity that what they had at home. It's the job the non-refugee undocumented expect.


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If only there was a way for them to come here and do that legally...

For real though, it's incredibly frustrating how difficult the H2A program has been to work with recently while others can just walk over the border no problem. Getting penalized for doing things the legal way is sure incentive to continue as is.

 

[RandyForRubio]

No no no, don’t you do this. You made a completely inappropriate and slanderous claim. Back it up with quotes, things I actually wrote, or apologize right now.

You’re not really this tribal, dishonest, and classless,

No no no, don’t you do this. You made a completely inappropriate and slanderous claim. Back it up with quotes, things I actually wrote, or apologize right now.

You’re not really this tribal, dishonest, and classless, are you?

You calling somebody tribal is rather ironic. Pot calling the kettle black. If you can't see that...

Anyways, I'll break it down for you. You recently blamed the crazy guy at DQ with guns on dangerous talk from conservatives. Did you do the same in regards to liberals when a man with weapons was arrested outside of a SC Justice's house? We both know you did not. It's fine that you're the most partisan person on this board, just own it.

 

[Deleted member 365]

You calling somebody tribal is rather ironic. Pot calling the kettle black. If you can't see that...

Anyways, I'll break it down for you. You recently blamed the crazy guy at DQ with guns on dangerous talk from conservatives. Did you do the same in regards to liberals when a man with weapons was arrested outside of a SC Justice's house? We both know you did not. It's fine that you're the most partisan person on this board, just own it.

Have you no shame? Unreal.

 

[RandyForRubio]

Have you no shame? Unreal.

Very little, tbh. You're avoiding, btw.

 

[gandalfe]

Very little, tbh. You're avoiding, btw.

Can you provide quotes from him, or not?

 

[RandyForRubio]

Can you provide quotes from him, or not?

Uhhh...no. I'm asking Thriller if he treated the two situations in a similar way. You see, I'm asking because I know he didn't. He knows he didn't. Why waste my time looking when we all know?

 

[gandalfe]

Uhhh...no. I'm asking Thriller if he treated the two situations in a similar way. You see, I'm asking because I know he didn't. He knows he didn't. Why waste my time looking when we all know?

So, you're making an unprovable claim saying that "we all know." That's just an absolute pile.

 

[RandyForRubio]

So, you're making an unprovable claim saying that "we all know." That's just an absolute pile.

It's very provable, I'm just lazy. And again, we all know. Don't be obtuse. Has Thriller been non-partisan in the past decade? Nope. And all Thriller has to do is respond, and despite multiple opportunities he chose not to. Don't be obtuse.