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John Stockton Claims He Had Proof of 1000 Athletes Dying of Vaccine

i don't know how it's such a contentious thing that whatever mask you can wear in a confined space at close contact will prob reduce your chances to transmit a respiratory virus to some degree, very slight for a ****** mask all the way up to a high degree for a fitted N95 mask. Same goes for picking up a virus in very confined spaces. Outside, absolutely useless. And children being forced to wear masks is freaking ridiculous.
 
Douchebag K said:
i don't know how it's such a contentious thing that whatever mask you can wear in a confined space at close contact will prob reduce your chances to transmit a respiratory virus to some degree, very slight for a ****** mask all the way up to a high degree for a fitted N95 mask. Same goes for picking up a virus in very confined spaces. Outside, absolutely useless. And children being forced to wear masks is freaking ridiculous.
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This isn't magic, folks. The chances of you getting a disease that's spread through the air is based on viral load. That is to say, how MUCH of it are you around, how LONG are you around it, and how LIKELY you are to ingest it.

How MUCH has to do with how many people you are around are spreading it - being sick/infectious obviously increases that, so does not wearing a mask, so does coughing/sneezing.
How LONG is pretty simple - how long are you around it? If I'm walking thru the grocery store to get bread, even if I pass by someone who is breathing hard and is sick, I'm probably not going to catch it, because I'm not in contact very long. The checker, however...
How LIKELY is the part that has long been unclear about masks, in this case. They generally don't protect you very much in that situation, as you can get it on your hands, maybe in your eyes, etc, etc.

(I know "viral load" usually refers to how much virus you personally have in your body, but I think the analogy is close enough that I'm keeping the term going.)
 
gandalfe said:
This isn't magic, folks. The chances of you getting a disease that's spread through the air is based on viral load. That is to say, how MUCH of it are you around, how LONG are you around it, and how LIKELY you are to ingest it.

How MUCH has to do with how many people you are around are spreading it - being sick/infectious obviously increases that, so does not wearing a mask, so does coughing/sneezing.
How LONG is pretty simple - how long are you around it? If I'm walking thru the grocery store to get bread, even if I pass by someone who is breathing hard and is sick, I'm probably not going to catch it, because I'm not in contact very long. The checker, however...
How LIKELY is the part that has long been unclear about masks, in this case. They generally don't protect you very much in that situation, as you can get it on your hands, maybe in your eyes, etc, etc.

(I know "viral load" usually refers to how much virus you personally have in your body, but I think the analogy is close enough that I'm keeping the term going.)
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Viral load would be a great name for a racehorse
 
Ya I mean takes a drag on a cigarette or joint then put on a mask and blow the smoke out. See how far it goes/spreads with the mask on vs the mask off.
Try same experiment with a sip of water.

Masks aren't perfect but I feel like they have to do something. They are a barrier/obstacle for anything entering or exiting your body. Seems like common sense to me. Don't really need a study or a scientist or a conspiracy theorist to tell me anything. I just use common sense.

To this day if I'm around sick people at work I will wear a mask (or if I'm the sick person). Really simple thing to do. Might as well do it. Less intrusive or cumbersome than a beard net by far
 
fishonjazz said:
Ya I mean takes a drag on a cigarette or joint then put on a mask and blow the smoke out. See how far it goes/spreads with the mask on vs the mask off.
Try same experiment with a sip of water.

Masks aren't perfect but I feel like they have to do something. They are a barrier/obstacle for anything entering or exiting your body. Seems like common sense to me. Don't really need a study or a scientist or a conspiracy theorist to tell me anything. I just use common sense.

To this day if I'm around sick people at work I will wear a mask (or if I'm the sick person). Really simple thing to do. Might as well do it. Less intrusive or cumbersome than a beard net by far
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Why though? Why would you willingly put yourself under the tyranny of doctors and scientists? I prefer to live free, no masks, no seat belts, etc. I don’t even cook my food anymore! I just eat it all raw! Let freedumb ring!
 
Scary **** guys and gals... One of the top guys at Pfizer admitting that there's a possibility of serious side effects down the road.

“I hope nobody is growing three legs or something like that, yeah, or the entire next generation is super f***** up. Could you imagine the scandal? Oh my God I would take Pfizer off my resume.”

"I hope we don’t discover something really bad down the line. I hope we don’t find out that somehow this mRNA lingers in the body, because it has to be affecting something hormonal to impact menstrual cycles.”


View: https://twitter.com/Project_Veritas/status/1621333409422315520?s=20&t=hDKzfS8XztKQ_DKIX9iq7w
 
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Project Veritas again. LOL

I wonder if some of you are just too young to know their history or if you’re intentionally seeking and finding stuff that confirms your own biases? Either way, you can’t have an honest discussion about vaccines when you’re relying on such dishonest garbage as James O’Keefe’s Project Veritas. This is just further proof of the hold that the anti-vax movement has on the right.

Garbage in garbage out.
 
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SteakNEggs said:
Scary **** guys...

“I hope nobody is growing three legs or something like that, yeah, or the entire next generation is super f***** up. Could you imagine the scandal? Oh my God I would take Pfizer off my resume.”

"I hope we don’t discover something really bad down the line. I hope we don’t find out that somehow this mRNA lingers in the body, because it has to be affecting something hormonal to impact menstrual cycles.”


View: https://twitter.com/Project_Veritas/status/1621333409422315520?s=20&t=hDKzfS8XztKQ_DKIX9iq7w
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Somehow I remain unscared

Maybe you're just prone to fear for some reason?
 
Gameface said:
Somehow I remain unscared

Maybe you're just prone to fear for some reason?
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John Stockton though. Triggered about a nobody but couldn't care less when a main Pfizer executive admits that the vaccine could be extremely dangerous and have long lasting effects.

Scary
 
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SteakNEggs said:
John Stockton though. Triggered about a nobody but couldn't care less when a main Pfizer executive admits that the vaccine could be dangerous.

Scary
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Do you… know anything about project Veritas? Or what mRNA is and does? Because you sound like you know absolutely zero about both.
 
SteakNEggs said:
I'm literally quoting the third highest ranking member of Pfizer. Nice try though.
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That was “reported” by Project Veritas. A simple google search will provide you with numerous examples of them finding damning quotes from important officials, completely striped of context and edited for maximum damage.

Again, you’re either too young to know what that organization has done and continues to do or you’re being dishonest in pretending that they’re a reliable source. Either way, not helpful.
 
The Thriller said:
That was “reported” by Project Veritas.

Again, you’re either too young to know what that organization has done and continues to do or you’re being dishonest in pretending that they’re a reliable source.
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You're the one being dishonest. I quoted the actual words from Walker. YOu are cowardly trying to turn the subject. I didn't say those words. PV didn't say those words. Your God at Pfizer said those words. Nobody else.
 
SteakNEggs said:
You're the one being dishonest. I quoted the actual words from Walker. YOu are cowardly trying to turn the subject. I didn't say those words. PV didn't say those words. Your God at Pfizer said those words. Nobody else.
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You’re being intentionally obtuse here. Those were words “reportedly said” by this executive in a clip from Project Veritas, right? Unless you cited another source that I’m unaware of in post 349… Again, this is what PV does. This is their schtick, whether we’re talking about ACORN, Planned Parenthood, or Pfizer.

“My god” at Pfizer? Ah yes, because a proponent of single payer systems, like me, is just a puppet for billion dollar corporations… :rolleyes:

Was that hit necessary? Did you think that it was persuasive? What’s your target audience here? Your hostility seems unncesssary and doesn’t tell me that you’re very confident.

Seek better sources of information. Yes, I’m attacking your source of information and not Pfizer. That’s been my issue all along because unlike you, I know/care about their history. PV is not a reliable source of information.
 
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The Thriller said:
You’re being intentionally obtuse here. Those were words “reportedly said” by this executive in a clip from Project Veritas, right? Unless you cited another source that I’m unaware of in post 349… Again, this is what PV does. This is their schtick, whether we’re talking about ACORN, Planned Parenthood, or Pfizer.

“My god” at Pfizer? Ah yes, because a proponent of single payer systems, like me, is just a puppet for billion dollar corporations.

Was that hit necessary? Did you think that it was persuasive? What’s your target audience here? Your hostility seems unncesssary and doesn’t tell me that you’re very confident.

Seek better sources of information. Yes, I’m attacking your source of information. That’s been my issue all along because unlike you, I know/care about their history. PV is not a reliable source of information.
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"Reportedly said" lol my source is direct quotes ON VIDEO from Jordan Walker. You are flat out playing stupid. It's not even debatable as it's ON VIDEO. Talk about tribalism. You are blaming other people for words said on video.
 
SteakNEggs said:
Scary **** guys and gals... One of the top guys at Pfizer admitting that there's a possibility of serious side effects down the road.

“I hope nobody is growing three legs or something like that, yeah, or the entire next generation is super f***** up. Could you imagine the scandal? Oh my God I would take Pfizer off my resume.”

"I hope we don’t discover something really bad down the line. I hope we don’t find out that somehow this mRNA lingers in the body, because it has to be affecting something hormonal to impact menstrual cycles.”


View: https://twitter.com/Project_Veritas/status/1621333409422315520?s=20&t=hDKzfS8XztKQ_DKIX9iq7w
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www.google.com

No, Project Veritas Video Doesn’t Prove Pfizer Is Mutating Covid-19, Who Is Jordon Trishton Walker?

A Project Veritas video claimed that it featured someone named “Jordon Trishton Walker, Pfizer Director of Research and Development - Strategic Operations and mRNA Scientific Planning.”
www.google.com www.google.com

www.snopes.com

Breaking Down the Project Veritas Video About Pfizer Purportedly Exploring 'Mutating' COVID-19

Pfizer published a response to the claims on the company's website. We were unable to establish contact with Jordon or Jordan Trishton Walker.
www.snopes.com www.snopes.com

Apparently no one can validate that Jordan Walker even exists in this context let alone is the executive shown. There appear to be working email addresses at Pfizer for both different spellings of Jordan, but that's about it.
 
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SteakNEggs said:
"Reportedly said" lol my source is direct quotes ON VIDEO from Jordan Walker. You are flat out playing stupid. It's not even debatable as it's ON VIDEO. Talk about tribalism. You are blaming other people for words said on video.
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Everything Project Veritas “captures” is “on video.” You really don’t know their history, do you? Why can’t you provide better sources for your information?

Really productive discussion, my man, just well done.

When people on here criticize me for being critical or impatient with conservative posters, this is a good example of what I’m talking about. I asked for more reliable sources of information and all I got were insults. The conservative poster didn’t make any attempt to discuss or engage in what most of us would describe as discussion. It was a broken record repeating the same garbage they’d been fed by social media/Fox News/paranoid RW blogs. Many conservative posters on here are so stuck inside their disinformation and paranoid bubbles that they’re incapable of discussion with others outside of these bubbles.
 
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