Republicans and Fascism

[Gameface]

Yet still constant bickering and circle jerking going on here. Even full on support and the defense of pharmaceutical industries when someone displays some skepticism. It’s very strange. My very first post was about how corrupt our government was as a whole, yet I was very quickly labeled and trashed like others here with any opposing perspectives.


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I'll continue to criticize the MAGA faction of the Republican party as they are unique in their willingness to do harm to subsets within the U.S. population with no shame or apology.

This is not simply a "both sides" thing just because neither side is particularly good. The MAGA faction is special and unique and something apart from "traditional" U.S. political pandering to corporations.

I don't remember what you specifically said earlier but if it was something along the lines of MAGA isn't any worse than what the democrats are doing then I would have emphatically disagreed with you.

I have seen very little defense of the pharmaceutical industry as such, what I have seen is push back on unsubstantiated claims against them. The objection in that case is not on behalf of the pharma industry but to arguments made based on false premises.

 

[mongoose01]

I'll continue to criticize the MAGA faction of the Republican party as they are unique in their willingness to do harm to subsets within the U.S. population with no shame or apology.

This is not simply a "both sides" thing just because neither side is particularly good. The MAGA faction is special and unique and something apart from "traditional" U.S. political pandering to corporations.

I don't remember what you specifically said earlier but if it was something along the lines of MAGA isn't any worse than what the democrats are doing then I would have emphatically disagreed with you.

I have seen very little defense of the pharmaceutical industry as such, what I have seen is push back on unsubstantiated claims against them. The objection in that case is not on behalf of the pharma industry but to arguments made based on false premises.

Oh so you guys are still just gonna hold tight to the whataboutisms and the lesser of two evils?
You might figure **** out on your own eventually. Neither side is better and until people figure that out they will remain a part of the problem.
You’re a frog in hot water and they are turning the heat up on you. Hell you might even be turning it up on yourself.
I might not have the solution, but I can guarandamntee it’s not to keep voting democrat.

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[Gameface]

Oh so you guys are still just gonna hold tight to the whataboutisms and the lesser of two evils?
You might figure **** out on your own eventually. Neither side is better and until people figure that out they will remain a part of the problem.
You’re a frog in hot water and they are turning the heat up on you. Hell you might even be turning it up on yourself.


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I'm not "you guys" I'm me.

I said one thing that you seem to have intentionally breezed past. MAGA is different. MAGA actively "otherizes" me, other members of my family and have targeted people I love to have their basic rights taken away. MAGA has made themself my enemy and that is how I will regard them.

I have no special love for democrats but they haven't threatened my rights and freedoms in anywhere close to the same way the MAGA movement has. It's not the lesser of two evils, it's the enemy of my enemy is my friend.

 

[mongoose01]

I'm not "you guys" I'm me.

I said one thing that you seem to have intentionally breezed past. MAGA is different. MAGA actively "otherizes" me, other members of my family and have targeted people I love to have their basic rights taken away. MAGA has made themself my enemy and that is how I will regard them.

I have no special love for democrats but they haven't threatened my rights and freedoms in anywhere close to the same way the MAGA movement has. It's not the lesser of two evils, it's the enemy of my enemy is my friend.

Tasty frog


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[SteakNEggs]

I'm not "you guys" I'm me.

I said one thing that you seem to have intentionally breezed past. MAGA is different. MAGA actively "otherizes" me, other members of my family and have targeted people I love to have their basic rights taken away. MAGA has made themself my enemy and that is how I will regard them.

I have no special love for democrats but they haven't threatened my rights and freedoms in anywhere close to the same way the MAGA movement has. It's not the lesser of two evils, it's the enemy of my enemy is my friend.

What basic rights specifically?

 

[Gameface]

Tasty frog


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Is this a reference to boiling a frog or something.

You keep ignoring what I'm saying and making unrelated points so I can see why we probably had negative interactions in the past.

The government is the government. It is made up of hundreds of thousands of individuals all told. Many are flawed, many are corrupt, many are criminals. Despite this we have a system that sometimes uncovers wrongdoing and some of those times punishes it to some degree, even if it often seems like it didn't go far enough.

We live in a good nation that provides most of us with opportunities to live the lives we want to live. We don't live in a perfect nation. We don't have any perfect political parties. Either party can run our government and provide all the wonderful things that I love about the United States. I don't think we are in the process of losing our freedoms. I'm not afraid, I'm not living in fear. I don't know why you are.

 

[mongoose01]

Is this a reference to boiling a frog or something.

You keep ignoring what I'm saying and making unrelated points so I can see why we probably had negative interactions in the past.

The government is the government. It is made up of hundreds of thousands of individuals all told. Many are flawed, many are corrupt, many are criminals. Despite this we have a system that sometimes uncovers wrongdoing and some of those times punishes it to some degree, even if it often seems like it didn't go far enough.

We live in a good nation that provides most of us with opportunities to live the lives we want to live. We don't live in a perfect nation. We don't have any perfect political parties. Either party can run our government and provide all the wonderful things that I love about the United States. I don't think we are in the process of losing our freedoms. I'm not afraid, I'm not living in fear. I don't know why you are.

I’m not living in fear, but I am seriously concerned. Whatever you think happened with the nord stream pipeline doesn’t even matter, the fact is it was an enormous ecological disaster as was the train derailment in Ohio. We are “recovering” from a pandemic that could also be linked to our government as well as the pharmaceutical industry. On top of it all, our government is Sabre rattling with multiple nuclear powers.

This is all the kind of **** people on the left were worried about trump doing. Trump is a psycho and he’s unstable and they were right to be worried about that with him, but why no concern about all the **** going on right now? There is some real bad **** going on.


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[One Brow]

Yet still constant bickering and circle jerking going on here. Even full on support and the defense of pharmaceutical industries when someone displays some skepticism. It’s very strange. My very first post was about how corrupt our government was as a whole, yet I was very quickly labeled and trashed like others here with any opposing perspectives.

Your ideas were criticized, especially that part where you thought you were revealing some hidden truths, and you took it personally. It happens.

I might not have the solution, but I can guarandamntee it’s not to keep voting democrat.

Until you, or someone else, have a workable solution or at least a better choice, I'll keep voting for the lesser of the two evils.

 

[mongoose01]

Your ideas were criticized, especially that part where you thought you were revealing some hidden truths, and you took it personally. It happens.


Until you, or someone else, have a workable solution or at least a better choice, I'll keep voting for the lesser of the two evils.

I think a better choice would be to have conversations and try to understand different perspectives. Until folks can decide to stop prescribing to their blue or red cult membership and fighting over balloons I think finding a solution will be difficult.
It’s a top vs bottom issue not left vs right.


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[One Brow]

I thought this was the best thread for this. In May/June 2023, the Texas Education Agency replaced an elected superintendent of school with Mike Miles, who plans to link principal/teacher pay to test scores.

New HISD Superintendent Mike Miles met with icy reception at first board meeting for district

Miles was appointed the new superintendent of the now state-controlled HISD and has made significant adjustments, which have parents and the community on the defense.

abc13.com

One aspect of his plan is ending the respective librarian positions and repurposing the libraries as areas to send disruptive students out of the classroom.

City leaders criticize Houston ISD superintendent Mike Miles over plans for school libraries | Houston Public Media

At least 28 campuses in HISD are eliminating librarians and media specialists while converting their libraries into spaces that will be used to discipline misbehaving students, among other uses.

www.houstonpublicmedia.org

Other features are typical of factory-style education (no individualization of lesson plans and cameras in the classrooms).

 

[LogGrad98]

I thought this was the best thread for this. In May/June 2023, the Texas Education Agency replaced an elected superintendent of school with Mike Miles, who plans to link principal/teacher pay to test scores.

New HISD Superintendent Mike Miles met with icy reception at first board meeting for district

Miles was appointed the new superintendent of the now state-controlled HISD and has made significant adjustments, which have parents and the community on the defense.

abc13.com

One aspect of his plan is ending the respective librarian positions and repurposing the libraries as areas to send disruptive students out of the classroom.

City leaders criticize Houston ISD superintendent Mike Miles over plans for school libraries | Houston Public Media

At least 28 campuses in HISD are eliminating librarians and media specialists while converting their libraries into spaces that will be used to discipline misbehaving students, among other uses.

www.houstonpublicmedia.org

Other features are typical of factory-style education (no individualization of lesson plans and cameras in the classrooms).

It's like we've learned nothing. Regression and devolution are de rigueur nowadays for some god-awful reason. Feels like society is just falling apart.

You know interestingly the book of Mormon talks about this kind of thing. When a society gets prosperous, it gets complacent, and, in the LDS context of course, they "forget God", and everything falls apart. Then they are humbled as society crumbles and they turn back to God. Then the cycle repeats. Feels pretty prescient right now, tbpfhwymf.

 

[The Thriller]

This is insane. This is the type of talk you’d see from Putin, Kim, and past authoritarians. Is this really the type of society we want? Is this a free and open democratic society? Think this is going to inspire other countries to become like us? Why is this attractive to people?


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[SteakNEggs]

Democrats have completely ruined the word and concept of fascism. It's just something they use as an insult without even knowing what the word means. I just laugh at the stupid trigger word anymore. We get it... it's fun to say and makes you look smart... but maybe know what the word means before throwing it around like some quasi intellect. It was once a powerful word now it's useless and overdrawn by millennials.

 

[Jazz Spazz]

This is insane. This is the type of talk you’d see from Putin, Kim, and past authoritarians. Is this really the type of society we want? Is this a free and open democratic society? Think this is going to inspire other countries to become like us? Why is this attractive to people?


View: https://x.com/atrupar/status/1707875014270177362?s=46&t=QT7YFlZ_IlHq81PpZAhKgw

First of all it’s stupid and barbaric… but my second response is “ the nerve of the guy to threaten to shoot someone who just threatened to shoot someone!”

Yes it’s an eye for an eye which leads to mayhem, but you are offended for some theoretical person rocking a store at gunpoint?

Give me your better solutions.

Nevermind, I have things to do this month.
Can we agree Trump sucks and move on with our lives?

 

[Jazz Spazz]

I thought this was the best thread for this. In May/June 2023, the Texas Education Agency replaced an elected superintendent of school with Mike Miles, who plans to link principal/teacher pay to test scores.

New HISD Superintendent Mike Miles met with icy reception at first board meeting for district

Miles was appointed the new superintendent of the now state-controlled HISD and has made significant adjustments, which have parents and the community on the defense.

abc13.com

One aspect of his plan is ending the respective librarian positions and repurposing the libraries as areas to send disruptive students out of the classroom.

City leaders criticize Houston ISD superintendent Mike Miles over plans for school libraries | Houston Public Media

At least 28 campuses in HISD are eliminating librarians and media specialists while converting their libraries into spaces that will be used to discipline misbehaving students, among other uses.

www.houstonpublicmedia.org

Other features are typical of factory-style education (no individualization of lesson plans and cameras in the classrooms).

Without reading it, it’s absurd. It’s like we don’t want our kids in the US to learn. Make it as hard as possible. Take away resources. Punish them…… wait, do they play Breakfast Club in the “library” for punishment? If so, I just might support it.

 

[The Thriller]

First of all it’s stupid and barbaric… but my second response is “ the nerve of the guy to threaten to shoot someone who just threatened to shoot someone!”

Yes it’s an eye for an eye which leads to mayhem, but you are offended for some theoretical person rocking a store at gunpoint?

Give me your better solutions.

Nevermind, I have things to do this month.
Can we agree Trump sucks and move on with our lives?

Huh? Trump didn’t put any such preconditions from what I see. Do you have the full transcripts? When I looked it up I didn’t see him make preconditions. If so, then I think this could be open for debate. He merely says that if you rob a store, you can expect the death penalty. Which is absurd. You understand that theft happens in other democratic countries and they somehow manage without executing such offenders, right? I certainly don’t want to live in a country where I could be caught in a crossfire between some grocery clerk emptying a clip on some kid stealing a pack of gum. Especially when you consider the racial implications of what Trump’s dog whistle is calling out to.

Trump animates California Republicans with calls to shoot people who rob stores

ANAHEIM, Calif. (AP) — In an occasionally dark and profane speech, Donald Trump on Friday sought to win over Republicans in California by complaining that rich people in Beverly Hills smell bad bec…

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But I guess it works because it gets empty headed dolts to **** their pants over “tough guy” talk like this.

 

[Jazz Spazz]

Huh? Trump didn’t put any such preconditions from what I see. Do you have the full transcripts? When I looked it up I didn’t see him make preconditions. If so, then I think this could be open for debate. He merely says that if you rob a store, you can expect the death penalty. Which is absurd. You understand that theft happens in other democratic countries and they somehow manage without executing such offenders, right? I certainly don’t want to live in a country where I could be caught in a crossfire between some grocery clerk emptying a clip on some kid stealing a pack of gum. Especially when you consider the racial implications of what Trump’s dog whistle is calling out to.

Trump animates California Republicans with calls to shoot people who rob stores

ANAHEIM, Calif. (AP) — In an occasionally dark and profane speech, Donald Trump on Friday sought to win over Republicans in California by complaining that rich people in Beverly Hills smell bad bec…

www.kron4.com

But I guess it works because it gets empty headed dolts to **** their pants over “tough guy” talk like this.

You know you would be better off to cancel him than let him have this power over you in your life.

Your side are letting him beat them at their own game but cant beat him because he’s so terrible and unpredictable. If he was a normal guy he would be controllable. It’s pretty infuriating. He changed the rules.

Both sides are terrible. Two fighting mob bosses over control of our country and it doesn’t matter who wins because both will keep driving us into ruin. Let’s let them and argue about it as individuals which way we ruin ourselves is best every day! Brilliant!!!

 

[The Thriller]

You know you would be better off to cancel him than let him have this power over you in your life.

Your side are letting him beat them at their own game but cant beat him because he’s so terrible and unpredictable. If he was a normal guy he would be controllable. It’s pretty infuriating. He changed the rules.

Both sides are terrible. Two fighting mob bosses over control of our country and it doesn’t matter who wins because both will keep driving us into ruin. Let’s let them and argue about it as individuals which way we ruin ourselves is best every day! Brilliant!!!

Uh no.

One party actually supports liberal democracy while the other party wants to overthrow it (they already tried).
One candidate has been impeached twice, been indicted for 91 felonies, found liable for rape, and attempted to overturn the last election while the other candidate has not.

The two parties or candidates are not the same. Any person who says so just isn’t a serious person. Do better

 

[Jazz Spazz]

Uh no.

One party actually supports liberal democracy while the other party wants to overthrow it (they already tried).
One candidate has been impeached twice, been indicted for 91 felonies, found liable for rape, and attempted to overturn the last election while the other candidate has not.

The two parties or candidates are not the same. Any person who says so just isn’t a serious person. Do better

Same results. Be more honest.

 

[The Thriller]

Same results. Be more honest.

Same results? Not even close.