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Bawse Dawg said:
Scoot fills a huge need for us (not to say Miller doesn't) I don't think we'd pass on him. A playmaker, freak athlete, with elite scoring upside. We needs it.
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Last time we drafted for need was Trey Burke. So its not always a good Idea to draft for need. You take the best player and figure it out. Portland didn't draft Michael Jordan because they already had Clyde the Glide.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
I mean hawkins has the the offense built around him and Keyonte is getting his off the dribble. Dick is assimilating into the offense in a little more reasonable way given his talents and the quality of the team he is on.
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Which is why I mentioned that his coach might not allow for it multiple times. I would really love to see him unleashed, this is not a knock on him it's an objective observation.
 
That’s two straight clunkers I’ve seen from Hawkins. Really didn’t like his lack of intensity today. I still find his quick shooting to be intriguing, but he’s definitely played himself out of the lottery for me. Maybe take a look at him in the late first round?

I like some of these other wings. Dick really looked good yesterday.
 
KqWIN said:
Which is why I mentioned that his coach might not allow for it multiple times. I would really love to see him unleashed, this is not a knock on him it's an objective observation.
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There is a difference between a coach not allowing it and a coach building his offense around it. I might prefer 5 threes over 9 if they come in the natural flow of my other actions and aren't because I ran 5 pin down screens to free him up.
 
cowhide said:
Last time we drafted for need was Trey Burke. So its not always a good Idea to draft for need. You take the best player and figure it out. Portland didn't draft Michael Jordan because they already had Clyde the Glide.
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We need to go after the best talent. There seems to be a ton of talented wings and guards in this draft. I’d love for us to go after the longest and most athletic of them.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
There is a difference between a coach not allowing it and a coach building his offense around it. I might prefer 5 threes over 9 if they come in the natural flow of my other actions and aren't because I ran 5 pin down screens to free him up.
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It's one in the same for me. If it's not a part of the gameplan, it's the coach that's the reason why he's not shooting more. The coach is trying to win a basketball game and not trying to figure out if Dick can be a super volume shooter so it's understandable (even if I think most NCAA coaches stink and are in the stone ages). For evaluation purposes, I would definitely prefer to see him in an expanded role. I mean....does anyone not want to see what he would be like at a higher volume? I saw someone here talking about him in a top 5 context. For that, I would have to see him in a higher usage role than he is.
 
KqWIN said:
It's one in the same for me. If it's not a part of the gameplan, it's the coach that's the reason why he's not shooting more. The coach is trying to win a basketball game and not trying to figure out if Dick can be a super volume shooter so it's understandable (even if I think most NCAA coaches stink and are in the stone ages). For evaluation purposes, I would definitely prefer to see him in an expanded role. I mean....does anyone not want to see what he would be like at a higher volume? I saw someone here talking about him in a top 5 context. For that, I would have to see him in a higher usage role than he is.
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I don’t really care… because the environment he functioned in is more likely the environment I would have him in. I think it’s just as fair to worry about how a guy would fair when he isn’t getting every possible rep.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
I don’t really care… because the environment he functioned in is more likely the environment I would have him in. I think it’s just as fair to worry about how a guy would fair when he isn’t getting every possible rep.
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I don't disagree about his role....but I can't really place him in the top 5 range like others unless he was showing signs of being a super high volume shooter. Who knows, he could be like Booker where the team is holding him back. But I have a hard time moving him up from where I have him (I think I have him at 9 or 10) without knowing how he does in a bigger role and/or truly separated himself as a shooter. I have no problems if someone said he is the best shooter in the draft but I think others are similar or have a claim themselves. There's a good chance the decision is going to be between some combination of Black/Wallace/Dick/Hendricks. I think I would take Black/Wallace there knowing you can probably get one of Whitehead/Brice/Hawkins/Howard later on.
 
Wallace is 2-11 right now....but he's that dude that still helps you win when he's 2-11. He's definitely hurt so maybe this is unfair, but he still doesn't pop on the screen with his athleticism.

Super ugly offense for Kentucky.
 
C'mon be honest who.will.be better than Wemby? The Jazz are really looking for 2nd best player that other teams may pass on because they perceive there is a flaw. I like Jarace, Cam, Miller, Black, or Brice for that possibility. I think there is a small chance but not likely that the Jazz could pull it off. The Jazz may, may most likely end up with the 4th or 5th best player in the draft if they are lucky.

Sidy I think will NOT be the 2nd best player from this draft but I think he is a fantastic do it all depth piece that could do wonderful things on a team, ala Joe Ingles.
 
KqWIN said:
I don't disagree about his role....but I can't really place him in the top 5 range like others unless he was showing signs of being a super high volume shooter. Who knows, he could be like Booker where the team is holding him back. But I have a hard time moving him up from where I have him (I think I have him at 9 or 10) without knowing how he does in a bigger role and/or truly separated himself as a shooter. I have no problems if someone said he is the best shooter in the draft but I think others are similar or have a claim themselves. There's a good chance the decision is going to be between some combination of Black/Wallace/Dick/Hendricks. I think I would take Black/Wallace there knowing you can probably get one of Whitehead/Brice/Hawkins/Howard later on.
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I don’t think he’s top 5… I don’t see Devin Booker on ball prowess with him. I like him.

I’d have Black/Hendo/Wallace ahead of him and would probably do the same evaluation you did and grab the shooter with the Minny pick.
 
I could see the Jazz liking Hood-Schifino. I think he could be a real possibility with the Minnesota pick if it's mid-1st. He's not great, but he's solid at most things and plays with good intensity at 6'6".
 
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cowhide said:
Last time we drafted for need was Trey Burke. So its not always a good Idea to draft for need. You take the best player and figure it out. Portland didn't draft Michael Jordan because they already had Clyde the Glide.
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Burke was national player of the year. Maybe I'm wrong, but wasn't he projected to go where the Jazz picked?
 
Just looking at prospect ages. Hadn't realized that (if KOC's Ringer draft guide is correct) that freshman Jordan Hawkins is as old as juniors Julian Strawther and Colby Jones.
 
So my co worker said to me this morning: "Ask those jazzfanz guys (he isn't a member) when they think the Purdue big man will be drafted and what kind of role or minutes they think he will get in the nba."

So lets hear it.
 
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