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Kessler is literally the tall guy at pick up who only wants to shoot 3's. He should listen to the staff. Wanting to shoot 3's instead of being inside the paint is not the greatest look for him given his struggles. I'm not sure you can really teach/develop a mentality though. My guess is that he fluctuates up and down between his year 1&2 level depending on his mental state.

Shooting 3's has more potential to make him worse than better imo.

During offseason workouts there is plenty of time to do both. Some of you are acting like he can only do one thing at a time. There is no reason that he should be getting up at least 200 3's a day during his workouts as well as a ton of mid range and post of shots. The guy is working with a couple rebounders so you can get up a bunch of shots really quick.
 
If you need someone to tell you why a 50% FT shooter shouldnt worry about his 3pt shot then you are even more hopeless than I knew.
Now we know that you haven't actually played much ball or just sucked at it. Anyone that is a 50% free throw shooter should be getting up as many outside shots as they can to improve their shooting stroke.
 
Now we know that you haven't actually played much ball or just sucked at it. Anyone that is a 50% free throw shooter should be getting up as many outside shots as they can to improve their shooting stroke.
Yeah, that's not how FT shooting works. You dont take whatever outside shot you want and your FT shooting gets better. If you suck at FT shooting you have to practice FT shooting to get better at FT shooting.

You are just saying ridiculous things. Doesnt really matter how good I am at basketball or not, I have common sense which is apparently lacking in your fantasy land where NBA players can practice all skills at one time and specialization isnt necessary for skill improvement.
 
Now we know that you haven't actually played much ball or just sucked at it. Anyone that is a 50% free throw shooter should be getting up as many outside shots as they can to improve their shooting stroke.
Respectfully, there is zero correlation and you’re absolutely wrong.
 
During offseason workouts there is plenty of time to do both. Some of you are acting like he can only do one thing at a time. There is no reason that he should be getting up at least 200 3's a day during his workouts as well as a ton of mid range and post of shots. The guy is working with a couple rebounders so you can get up a bunch of shots really quick.

If Kessler sees himself as a shooter, that is a problem. In his rookie year he was elite at finishing around the basket and offensive rebounding. That's what he should build his game around, being around the hoop and playing in a way that actually helps his team. All this shooting stuff will do is make him soft and not want him to do what he's great at. I don't care about if he has rebounders or not to help him get more shots. I'm worried about his mentality which is the thing holding him back the most.

Kessler needs to be inside the paint. I don't care if he shoots during the off season or whatever it meant that he played the right way. Gobert always shoots threes in practice, but in the games he knows what he's doing. What they do in the empty gyms doesn't really matter. My point is that we should not placate Kessler's softness. He has some great tools and ability inside the paint on offense, work around that instead of trying to build on top of his horrible shooting ability. You don't want an Ayton situation where he's physically dominant and can get any shot he wants but prefers to shoot middy's and take 1 FT per game.

It's not a problem with how Kessler spends his time necessarily, it's how he views himself as a player and his mentality towards the game.
 
It sounds like WK ought to do some work with Karl Malone to get himself in better physical shape and to improve his free throw shooting. Mail's rookie year he was a horrible FT shooter.
 
Yeah, that's not how FT shooting works. You dont take whatever outside shot you want and your FT shooting gets better. If you suck at FT shooting you have to practice FT shooting to get better at FT shooting.

You are just saying ridiculous things. Doesnt really matter how good I am at basketball or not, I have common sense which is apparently lacking in your fantasy land where NBA players can practice all skills at one time and specialization isnt necessary for skill improvement.

Have you ever gone to the gym and shot around for a few hours? Even without having rebounders there is plenty of time to focus on pretty much every skillset. With rebounders you can be incredibly productive though and put in enough time to focus on multiple things. You should be getting up at least 1000 shots during your workout if you have rebounders. That should include at least 200 free throws.
 
Have you ever gone to the gym and shot around for a few hours? Even without having rebounders there is plenty of time to focus on pretty much every skillset. With rebounders you can be incredibly productive though and put in enough time to focus on multiple things. You should be getting up at least 1000 shots during your workout if you have rebounders. That should include at least 200 free throws.
Is this a parody account?
 
If Kessler sees himself as a shooter, that is a problem. In his rookie year he was elite at finishing around the basket and offensive rebounding. That's what he should build his game around, being around the hoop and playing in a way that actually helps his team. All this shooting stuff will do is make him soft and not want him to do what he's great at. I don't care about if he has rebounders or not to help him get more shots. I'm worried about his mentality which is the thing holding him back the most.

Kessler needs to be inside the paint. I don't care if he shoots during the off season or whatever it meant that he played the right way. Gobert always shoots threes in practice, but in the games he knows what he's doing. What they do in the empty gyms doesn't really matter. My point is that we should not placate Kessler's softness. He has some great tools and ability inside the paint on offense, work around that instead of trying to build on top of his horrible shooting ability. You don't want an Ayton situation where he's physically dominant and can get any shot he wants but prefers to shoot middy's and take 1 FT per game.

It's not a problem with how Kessler spends his time necessarily, it's how he views himself as a player and his mentality towards the game.

Every player should want to improve their shooting. That doesn't mean that Kessler views himself as a shooter but he clearly views it as a weakness that he wants to improve on. You say that he needs to be in the paint but that isn't the reality of how he is going to be used. He is used as a perimeter screener and having the ability to screen and pop is very useful because the defensive big has to think twice about dropping. You bring up Ayton but I don't see the point because Kessler isn't even remotely as physically dominant or skilled as Ayton. If he had that level of talent then I would agree completely and say get his *** in the post.
 
It just takes such wild levels of stupidity to think that you can become one of the best centers in the world when you are wasting your time trying to get a skill up to par that will account for less than 5% of your total offense.

Centers have to specialize. Doing the things they have to do is not easy. If it was, then all centers could waste their time working on their jumpers and "bag" and still be really great at the things their team needs to do and they would all be 40% open 3pt shooters, but the world doesnt work that way unless you are extremely talented at those things (which Walker is not).
 
If Kessler sees himself as a shooter, that is a problem. In his rookie year he was elite at finishing around the basket and offensive rebounding. That's what he should build his game around, being around the hoop and playing in a way that actually helps his team. All this shooting stuff will do is make him soft and not want him to do what he's great at. I don't care about if he has rebounders or not to help him get more shots. I'm worried about his mentality which is the thing holding him back the most.

Kessler needs to be inside the paint. I don't care if he shoots during the off season or whatever it meant that he played the right way. Gobert always shoots threes in practice, but in the games he knows what he's doing. What they do in the empty gyms doesn't really matter. My point is that we should not placate Kessler's softness. He has some great tools and ability inside the paint on offense, work around that instead of trying to build on top of his horrible shooting ability. You don't want an Ayton situation where he's physically dominant and can get any shot he wants but prefers to shoot middy's and take 1 FT per game.

It's not a problem with how Kessler spends his time necessarily, it's how he views himself as a player and his mentality towards the game.
If you arent able to do the things you are supposed to do, then it is absolutely a problem with how you spend your time.
 
Every player should want to improve their shooting. That doesn't mean that Kessler views himself as a shooter but he clearly views it as a weakness that he wants to improve on. You say that he needs to be in the paint but that isn't the reality of how he is going to be used. He is used as a perimeter screener and having the ability to screen and pop is very useful because the defensive big has to think twice about dropping. You bring up Ayton but I don't see the point because Kessler isn't even remotely as physically dominant or skilled as Ayton. If he had that level of talent then I would agree completely and say get his *** in the post.

The point is that you can make yourself a worse player by playing in a suboptimal way. Kessler was really good around the basket as a rookie. Top 10 in FG% at the rim. Top 10 in OREB per36. Top 30 in floater range. FG%. That should be the focus of his game. He should working on getting more of those opportunities and leveraging that ability to help his team win. On the other hand, Kessler is a terrible shooter, has always been a terrible shooter, and has shown no signs of not being terrible. Not everyone should try to incorporate a 3 point shot. The report from Andy, which we are talking about, is clear. Kessler views himself as a shooter and that is terrible advice from his camp. The Jazz are absolutely correct that his development should be as a big man doing big man things.
 
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