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There is also racism is in being denied Stand-Your-Ground status, and immediately arrested, despite being apparently less culpable than Zimmerman.

Racism has become an excuse for anytime anyone disagrees with anyone who is not white. ********. It is a shallow pathetic excuse. Are there racists? Sure there are. However it is a ******** lame pathetic excuse that is used anytime something does not go someones way. You can cry about the poor, down trodden masses all you want but at the end of the day it is crap. I had thought you were better and that I should not have you on my ignore list. I was wrong. You deserve to be there for that total crap.

You need to rethink your own views on race. Pathetic.
 
Things are what they are.



It's quite obvious you didn't read the details of the case. Feel free to proclaim racism played no part in that. You probably even believe it.


Your so worthless when you do this BS.
 
You don't need a mandatory sentence to get the sentencing right. You need good sentencing guidelines and judges who follow them. Mandatory sentencing is horrible in every way in my opinion. They have led to countless tragedies like this and haven't done damn thing about crime.

You have a very good point. The main problem I have with it is that I do not share your faith in Judges. If all judges were responsible and tried their best to make logical, law driven decisions then that would be a different matter. The truth though is that many of them do not. They judge according to their political view of the world.
 
There is also racism is in being denied Stand-Your-Ground status, and immediately arrested, despite being apparently less culpable than Zimmerman.

The judge stated that she didn't demonstrate that she felt she was in imminent danger.

A) She went to the garage to get the gun and then returned instead of getting out.

B) She fired not to stop from being attacked but to show that she meant business (not allowed).

C) The person did not enter her house illegally.

Yep, pure racism.
 
The judge stated that she didn't demonstrate that she felt she was in imminent danger.

A) She went to the garage to get the gun and then returned instead of getting out.

B) She fired not to stop from being attacked but to show that she meant business (not allowed).

C) The person did not enter her house illegally.

Yep, pure racism.

That is the cool, popular thing to do. Use racism any time anything does not go your way. Racist cops, judge, jury, witneses. Hell white people in general a racist. It is in their DNA.
 
Racism has become an excuse for anytime anyone disagrees with anyone who is not white.

Spoken like someone who is only aware of racism when it is brought up by media figures.

Are there racists? Sure there are.

Racism is not limited to the overtly racist.

You need to rethink your own views on race. Pathetic.

I have thought them over many times. Emotional screeds are unlikely to persuade me.
 
The judge stated that she didn't demonstrate that she felt she was in imminent danger.

A) She went to the garage to get the gun and then returned instead of getting out.

1) The garage had two exits: a jammed car door and the door back into the house
2) The point of stand-your-ground is that you have no duty to attempt to flee

B) She fired not to stop from being attacked but to show that she meant business (not allowed).

Her husband threatened to kill her.

C) The person did not enter her house illegally.

Stand-your-ground does not require illegal entry. It applies in public places, for example.

Yep, pure racism.

You haven't mentioned anything to indicate otherwise. Keep digging, though. It's fun watching you try to justify this.
 
No, it's in the structure of society, on so many different levels it's all but invisible to white people who aren't deliberately looking for it.

So white people are racist because they don't see racism but other races are not racist because they see racism everywhere? Got it.
 
So white people are racist because they don't see racism but other races are not racist because they see racism everywhere? Got it.

I'm not a racist. I just think every other race sees racism everywhere, when there really isn't any. White people are the only ones who have it right. /sarcasm
 
1) The garage had two exits: a jammed car door and the door back into the house
2) The point of stand-your-ground is that you have no duty to attempt to flee



Her husband threatened to kill her.



Stand-your-ground does not require illegal entry. It applies in public places, for example.



You haven't mentioned anything to indicate otherwise. Keep digging, though. It's fun watching you try to justify this.

I'm glad you're having fun. Smart *** jerk comments like that make you so much more persuasive. As smart as you might be, you're a real jackass weather I agree or disagree with you.

Stand your ground has a requirement, you must feel that you life is in imminent danger. I haven't read FL stand your ground law, I'm basing this on my general understanding of these types of laws.

First, stand your ground doesn't require you to attempt to flee, thus the name. You can stay where you rightfully exist and defend yourself if attacked. However, stand your ground doesn't allow you to use a firearm for intimidation so that your husband gets out of your way. It doesn't allow for warning shots.

So, clearly, stand your ground doesn't apply in this case. She wasn't trying to protect herself from an attack that was taking place, she was trying to gain the upper hand in a fight with her husband in which she says he threatened to kill her.

She made the case against herself. She didn't fire at a man attempting to harm her, she fired at a wall near where he and HER CHILDREN were. Again, the children were standing with the husband and she fired an un-aimed shot in their general direction when no physical harm was taking place. He was not lunging at her. He was not holding a knife. He was standing next to the children. She wanted him to leave. You cannot fire shots to get people to leave. Nor can you shot in someone's general direction if a few minutes earlier they verbally threatened to kill you. How was he going to kill her? Did he have a weapon? Did he do anything that indicated his killing of her was about to begin? No? Ok then, shooting at the husband and their children was not justified. Shooting at a wall violates one of the basic rules of firearm safety, Know your target and what lies beyond your target. She's taking pot shots at walls. What's on the other side of the wall? More kids, innocent neighbors, who? She doesn't know and she doesn't care, she's taking shots in the house with her kids around.

I know she claims he was abusive, but her actions are considered domestic violence. You cannot use threats and intimidation to get your way in a domestic dispute. That includes throwing things, breaking things, punching or kicking walls and doors and in this case firing random shots at the wall. She went over the line. She put her children's lives at risk.

She would have been fine if she would have returned with the gun and told him to get out. Then if he doesn't get out she can call the police. If at any time he starts to physically threaten her she can shot him. Not the wall. Him. Not his pinky toe, him.

You don't think the Zimmerman shooting was justified despite Zimmerman suffering injuries. He was being physically attacked. I'm not saying he didn't aggravate the situation, but by being a prick who harasses young black kids one doesn't relinquish the right to defend them-self from a life threatening attack. Unfortunately it will be too hard to say if the attack was instigated by Zimmerman or Trayvon, which means that Zimmerman will almost certainly not be convicted. Does that mean I'm convinced Zimmerman didn't initiate the physical altercation and then shoot Trayvon when he (Trayvon) was actually the one defending himself? No, just not sure enough to say. On the other hand I'm guessing you'd still have something to say if there was video showing that Trayvon was the first one to get physical.
 
I love it how one dumbass after another steps up to the plate, goes down swinging, and then vanishes from the thread. Thank goodness there are OneTaint's, northeast's and Thriller's in this world, or this would be one hell of a boring thread.


Oh ya, there is zero chance that Zimmerman is convicted. It might even be a negative chance. 2nd degree murder? Please. They purposely charged him with something that wouldn't stick just to shut the dumbasses of the world up. It worked, clearly.
 
Gotta say the Z supporters made a lot of despicable or illogical posts.

More good posts were made One Brow alone then the half dozen on the other side combined.

Not that this thread means anything to the 7 billion people who are not looking at it.
 
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I'm writing my final exam for my civic issues class on this case. I just read through all 46 pages of this thread. It is pretty amazing how divisive and polarizing this case is. I'm starting to think my paper will be more interesting if I focus on why people support one side or the other so passionately.
 
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