Darkwing Duck
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Utah has definitely become elitist. Refuses to go anywhere in basketball, either. I guess the 20 point drubbing at the DEC sealed that.
No BYU-Utah Rivalry Football Games in 2014 or 2015
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Sad. It's been a great rivalry.
One odd thing about this, though, is that many Utah fans are saying they don't need to play BYU because (in effect) Utah is now so much better than the Y. However, the reason Chris Hill gave for not playing BYU is because he didn't want to schedule too many "really, really difficult games" in one season.
One odd thing about this, though, is that many Utah fans are saying they don't need to play BYU because (in effect) Utah is now so much better than the Y. However, the reason Chris Hill gave for not playing BYU is because he didn't want to schedule too many "really, really difficult games" in one season.
7StraightIsGreat
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Sure, a few Ute fans are going to imply that Utah now has bigger fish to fry. That's just the rivalry talking. Why pass on the chance to take a jab at your rival?
Truth of the matter is, if Utah is stuck playing a 9 game PAC 12 schedule and a Big 10 team on top of that, Utah needs to worry about Utah in regards to scheduling balance. With Utah having an unbalanced home/away schedule in the PAC every other year, it makes it even harder for them to commit to a long term home and home with BYU. It's easy for BYU and their fans to sit back and be critical of Utah for dictating this change. BYU has nothing but scheduling freedom, almost to a fault (nobody to play in November). Once Utah made the jump to the PAC and BYU went independent, the trajectory of these programs were set in radically different directions. It's time for fans from both teams to pull up their big boy pants and deal with the ramifications of growth.
There's rumors that the PAC 12 wants to move towards 8 conference games per year. I really hope that happens and if/when it does, it opens the door for Utah and BYU to resume playing every year. However, until that happens Ute fans shouldn't sit around wringing their hands worrying about the rivalry with BYU. If Utah can bump BYU every couple of years in favor of the Michigans of the world, it's a good thing.
BYU on the other hand, can turn their rivalry focus to Boise State. If BYU fans dislike Utah fans now, I can't wait for them to get a load of Boise fans once they're playing them every year.
Chad Feldheimer
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Cheer up Cougie fans. I'm sure some other team will need a cupcake to schedule.
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BYU has only themselves to blame.
They need to wake up and get into a bigtime conference. Teams are flooding the big conferences and locking up their entire schedules to big conference games. Had BYU joined the Big 12, the rivalry game would still be in place (and an extremely lucrative game because of the colliding Big 12 and Pac 12 Conferences). The attention, money, and intensity would be insane.
As it stands now, it's the Big Conference Utah Utes vs some Independent School that thinks it's Notre Dame or something.
I don't blame Chris Hill for looking out for his team. By missing out on BYU they can either plan a game with another big conference school (lke Michigan) and make a ton of money or play a cupcake to prepare them for conference play.
BYU needs to join a conference or basically concede that athletics aren't important anymore and begin the dismantling process of their football program. Turn it into BYU I with Intramurals. In a way, this has already started. BYU hasn't send anyone to the NFL in quite some time. They're only digging their grave deeper by preferring to stay Independent and playing no one after their 4th week and forcing their basketball program into high school gyms.
They need to wake up and get into a bigtime conference. Teams are flooding the big conferences and locking up their entire schedules to big conference games. Had BYU joined the Big 12, the rivalry game would still be in place (and an extremely lucrative game because of the colliding Big 12 and Pac 12 Conferences). The attention, money, and intensity would be insane.
As it stands now, it's the Big Conference Utah Utes vs some Independent School that thinks it's Notre Dame or something.
I don't blame Chris Hill for looking out for his team. By missing out on BYU they can either plan a game with another big conference school (lke Michigan) and make a ton of money or play a cupcake to prepare them for conference play.
BYU needs to join a conference or basically concede that athletics aren't important anymore and begin the dismantling process of their football program. Turn it into BYU I with Intramurals. In a way, this has already started. BYU hasn't send anyone to the NFL in quite some time. They're only digging their grave deeper by preferring to stay Independent and playing no one after their 4th week and forcing their basketball program into high school gyms.
I don't disagree with you whole post, just that first sentence. A big part of the issue is that the Pac-12 wants teams to have a 9-game conference schedule. That could change, but who knows? The other issue is that Utah is exactly like all the other schools where football has become all about the money, tradition and rivalries be damned. BYU obviously likes getting money too since they have a deal with ESPN, but they're not in it for the money as much as everyone else. If that were the case, they'd probably be in the Big 12 already.
green
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BULL ****. If BYU was all about the rivalry, and not money, they would agree to play 2 for 1 with Utah. THEN Utah wouldn't have to make up lost revenue, would have an additional home game when they have 5 PAC road games, etc, etc, etc. But, BYU would never agree to that (in part, because Utah is their biggest game of the year, which was evidenced by the fact that the Utah game was the most expensive ticket, by a long shot last year).
Last year, Utah bought out Iowa State and Boise St to play BYU and gave up home games. What did BYU do???? Whine like little bitches. It is the new reality. Keep pouting with your ball and whining how everyone is afraid to play you.
Right, Utah is so great that it is such a huge sacrifice to play lowly BYU every year.
EDIT: Also, did I say BYU wasn't about the money at all? Also, is it even a "rivalry" if one side is making outlandish demands?
green
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I'm glad it is over. I am a Ute, but I have enjoyed BYU games in the past. BYU fan has become so unbelievably obnoxious the last couple of years. I am so sick of hearing about how Jake Heaps is going to win a Heisman, Independence is better than a BCS conference, they have the best defense in the country, Doman is the best OC and should be HC, Quezada is better than John White, Nelson is a senior and had Utah played against Nelson BYU would have won (even though he did play against Utah's 2nd stringers and was dominated), etc, etc, etc.
Blah, blah, blah. Let's end this rivalry, and I can get back to enjoying another game on a Saturday.
Blah, blah, blah. Let's end this rivalry, and I can get back to enjoying another game on a Saturday.
green
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p.s. Don't be surprised if Utah buys the 2016 game out. They give the home game to BYU, let it cool for a year or so, then get to scheduling real teams (ie, B1G teams) and quietly buy BYU out, just like they did yesterday in buying out the road Utah State games. Just another example of Utah bending over backwards for the rivalry while BYU just sits in the corner and whines. Douchebags.
The local radio hacks can whine and complain all they want, they will actually have to do some work other than "How is Utah/BYU better than BYU/Utah in _________."
The local radio hacks can whine and complain all they want, they will actually have to do some work other than "How is Utah/BYU better than BYU/Utah in _________."
7StraightIsGreat
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I like you.
green
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Utah will dominate BYU in 2013. BYU will have new LB's, new DL, new OL, new WR's, new QB. Utah will have senior QB, SR LB's, Jr/SR RB's, JR/SR WR's, their OL will all be Jr's and SR's. That will be an EXTREMELY ugly game. Everyone talks about how Utah is improved this year over last and will compete in the south, wait until 2013. USC will be young as well, as will Oregon and Washington. In 2013, Utah should be a legit frontrunner to win the south and PAC-12.