JimLes
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developing the young players and getting the best draft pick possible would be my goals THIS year to.
How is that not happening right now? Look who the top 4 players by minutes per game are.
developing the young players and getting the best draft pick possible would be my goals THIS year to.
I'm asking for proof there is a significant statistical difference between picking 1st and 3rd. Or 3rd and 4th. Or 19th and 21st.
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So simple bro........ 1st pick has the opportunity to pick any player in the draft...... 3rd pick don't have a chance at the first two
Once again, then why don't all number one picks turn out better than all number 3 picks?
Across the whole sample, the difference in a pick or two isn't going to be statistically (or substantively) significant (it's virtually impossible to get the statistical power you're looking for given the sample size). In some drafts, however, I'd guess there are fairly clear talent tiers, where there's a significant drop-off in expected performance from one group to the next. Posters here are concerned they'll miss out on one of Parker, Wiggins, Embiid, Randle (Exum/Smart?).The draft position we're talking about is that of the Jazz this coming June. First 5-6 picks. I'm obviously not so obtuse as to suggest there's no difference between 1st and 30th. I'm asking for proof there is a significant statistical difference between picking 1st and 3rd. Or 3rd and 4th. Or 19th and 21st.
I'm not comfortable labeling as "duds" Anthony Davis, Kyrie Irving, Derrick Rose, Dwight Howard, Blake Griffin, Yao Ming or Allen Iverson. I agree, however, that this isn't a point worth discussing.We've been over this. If you want to argue further, we can, but for every LeBron or Duncan in the past 20 years, we've had a couple of Odens, Bargnanis and Kandimen.
Cause those other gms are not as good as dennis Lindsey
Looking at usage percentage and touches/time of possession make this even more obvious. The youth, including Burks and Kanter, are being given the ball. The vets are being used in complementary roles.How is that not happening right now? Look who the top 4 players by minutes per game are.
Ah, the gambler's fallacy. Everyone else is an idiot, I know what I'm doing. Everyone else picks the NCAA bracket randomly, I put in sophisticated analysis.
Looking at usage percentage and touches/time of possession make this even more obvious. The youth, including Burks and Kanter, are being given the ball. The vets are being used in complementary roles.
Not me silly.
It might surprise you to know that im not employed by the jazz.
I was talking about dennis lindsey
Of course not, who needs numbers? We'll just take your word for it.
I know who you're talking about and I have no idea why you consider him immune to draft blunders.
How about if we just consider the top 5 picks? That's what we're looking at this year, isn't it? How much better does having a top 5 pick increase the odds of getting a better player vs. picking top 10 vs. the rest of the first round (11-30)?
If we just consider the top 5 picks, why would you look at the rest of the first round? The Jazz are not picking outside of top 10. Hell, the Jazz are likely not picking lower than 5th.
There are lots of unknowns and variables, yes. But there is also countless time and money spent to help make more informed decisions on draft day. Not sure why you wouldn't want the Jazz to get the player they want most versus the player they want third most.
And 100% no lower than 5th if they have a bottom two record. Now do you see why some people would prefer to tank?
But we CAN'T have the worst record under normal circumstances. For ****'s sake, why are people being so stubborn? We cannot be worse than the Bucks without getting rid of at least 3-4 players.
I thought that it gave a better picture of the point that I was trying to get across. Getting a franchise player almost always means having a Top-10 pick AND that the caliber of players in the Top 5 is significantly higher than from 6-10.If we just consider the top 5 picks, why would you look at the rest of the first round? The Jazz are not picking outside of top 10. Hell, the Jazz are likely not picking lower than 5th.