How white liberals view black voters

Harambe said:

I can name ten.

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Harambe said:

When understanding a different view, you must first have put yourself in their shoes. The article does a pretty **** job of engineering itself for people that don't want to hear people complain; it presents a well bitched about problem before it presents a route to the solution. It also tells me you didn't really read it, you just grabbed the first bit you could.

Allow me to point out what you missed:

In Texas, for example, the cost of traveling to the nearest Department of Public Safety office, Texas’ version of the DMV, can be burdensome: Of the 254 counties in Texas, 78 do not have a permanent DPS office. In some communities along the Mexican border, the nearest DPS office is between 100 and 125 miles away. And in rural communities in other states, the DMV offices are few and far between.

• Can you imagine having to travel 50-62.5 miles to get to a DPS for a pircture ID? Without a vehicle of your own?

Oftentimes, people don’t even have the money to pay for the underlying documentation needed to get a photo ID card. Getting a photo ID invariably requires proof of identification; usually, that means you need your birth certificate. But what if you don’t have your birth certificate? Then you have to contact whatever government office is in charge of that sort of thing to get a copy of it. And that can be a real pain in the *** for a lot of reasons.

• I ordered a copy of my birth certificate back in '09. I had to submit the request in the form of application, and identification. If no state identification was had, my parent had to provide their identification. So I submitted my mother's birth certificate. Imagine the pickle I'd be in had my mother not had hers.
• What happens if my birth certificate had a mistake on it? I'll tell you this, when I had to correct my social security card from Daniel to David, I also needed my mom's birth certificate.

What if a birth certificate never existed?

• No, that doesn't mean you're an illegal alien. A lot of rural folks were born on farms, or to midwives in homes.

And did you know that in 2010, the birth certificates of all American citizens born in Puerto Rico expired? Because they did. So if you were born in Puerto Rico and you need a birth certificate, well, good luck with that. Sure, you can pay five bucks to get a new one—and let’s not forget that for some people, like low-income folks or homeless folks, even five dollars is five dollars too much—but guess what you need in order to get a new birth certificate?

• Photo ID

One that isn't copied from the article; were you ever handed state or federally accepted photo identification without applying, paying a fee, or having paid a fee?

• I wasn't

So help me out mang... which one of these is not a real concern? Which one of these is only hypothetical, and could never actually exist in the real world?

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Archie Moses said:

You're going to have to elaborate a little more on what you mean exactly.

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NPC D4617 said:

Lmao.

Who the **** you hangin around with? The 14 and under crowd?

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NPC D4617 said:

If getting an ID is really that difficult for some people, then I suspect that voting would be the least of their worries.

I can just imagine the guy not motivated enough to get an ID finding it be high on his priority list to vote. Id be willing to bet that the people not motivated enough to get ID are even less motivated to vote. Lets see, getting an ID could actually make a difference in my life, but I think voting is more of a concern even though it will virtually change nothing in my life. I think I will make (which comes out to be the same amount of effort to vote) the decision to vote, but not get an ID.


Nothing you are arguing is realistic. These people who dont give a **** about ID's, dont give a **** about voting either. Id bet my life on it. You might find an outlier but thats about it.

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Harambe said:

The crowd that never buys booze, only carries debit cards, and direct deposits their paychecks. Outside of the occasional beer after work with my buddies, I can go months without using it.

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Archie Moses said:

Yeah, the guy who followed the law of the foreign country is the dumb.

You must be so cool, dude.

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NPC D4617 said:

Not needing it and not having one is difffeerrrenT

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Harambe said:

That's an awfully nice way to demean people living a different lifestyle. But it doesn't actually address the problem at hand. Does it?

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NPC D4617 said:

Whats the problem? Its their chose to live that lifestyle. Why do I need to address it?

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Harambe said:

Lack of need paves the way for not having one.

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Archie Moses said:

Hey, man, if it's pretty ****** argument to think everyone should obtain an ID and or have one to vote then I can live with that.

Next time you travel out of country, maybe question the officials who require to see an ID and tell them no.

"And no. "I had to, so others should, too" is not a good enough reason."

There's lots of other obvious reasons I'm all about people having IDs. The video was racist af.

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NPC D4617 said:

Lmao. Nonsense man. You are just moving the target.

You need an ID. Its one if the easiest things you can do that makes you an adult. Its literally the first stepping stone to success. Its costs basically nothing. Its take practically zero effort to obtain. But you 100% should do it. Not doing it makes you a retard and almost guarantees you wont succeed. If you cant accomplish this task you most likely cant accomplish anything, and really dont even deserve to vote.

Tired of these dumb *** excuses you are making. Were you raised by a millennial fairy or something man? Good hell. Maybe take some TRT or something.

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One Brow said:

Voter impersonation accounts for something like 0.0001% of the vote, at most. If voter ID disenfranchises even one person, it is a worse problem than than voter impersonation.

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Joe Bagadonuts said:

Hysterical to think that you actually believe it would be possible to know this.

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Archie Moses said:

Yes, I've done it myself, while living on a monthly budget that included travel of less than $30.

I had to travel for three hours by bus.

While it was annoying and difficult, I had to do it.

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Archie Moses said:

I respect the laws of the land so?

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JazzGal said:

Edited for kindness: I hesitate to judge those who are elderly, disabled, illiterate, and/or have lived in poverty for their entire lives and to say what is "easy" for them. I only know how hard it is to do anything in my somewhat disabled state, and I completely sympathize with those in worse shape.

We need to help people, not make life harder for them.

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Harambe said:

It's pretty complex. So it's fair to ask this.

Do you think it should be reasonable for a voting citizen to think who they vote for should remain private?

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