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NAOS_pt2 said:
Is there any chance that Lauri and Ausar (plus salary ballast) could be traded with very little or no draft compensation? Would either team be interested in that?
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I get the feeling Ausar is basically a dont ask it isn't happening for Detroit. I think we would be interested in that and they would likely pass.
 
So a bunch of good starting caliber wings with upside got in the 23-25 million range and we got Walker holding out for 30 million. Great.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
So a bunch of good starting caliber wings with upside got in the 23-25 million range and we got Walker holding out for 30 million. Great.
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Yeah because they weren't asked to throw games and are on teams where they could compete within the next several years, lol. The Hawks and Nuggets hope to make the conference finals, the Jazz hope to finish 29th in defense.

Utah is the worst possible situation for Kessler (coach that minimizes center on defense, organization that is trying to lose by being bad on purpose defensively, almost no ball handling or passing) so he should demand a high premium in exchange for that.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Walker probably being smart. I think the big man is a premium position again. Him and Duren going to bag chase
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I think just like Daniels he wanted 5/150 but settled in on 4/100. We exited the negotiation table before the waters arrived though.

The good news is once the Eason extension is done we will no doubt have the number 1 RFA next summer. We read the landscape brilliantly.
 
KqWIN said:
Where is this $30M number coming from btw? Not saying it's wrong, just wondering where it came from. @Handlogten's Heros and @Elizah Huge were talking about some numbers IIRC.
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I quoted a convo from Locke. I think its logical to think the negotiations were like 15-35M to start then would move to a more reasonable 20-30M range. Walker didn't hold out though. Jazz just said "we gotta preserve our precious cap space, so $20M or nah? We will get you 28-30M next summer for sure."

I heard somewhere that the Jazz were 50M apart... that could have been 20-30M or 25-35M though... so who knows.
 
Just so everyone knows, the Hawks are gonna trade Daniels, the better of Milwaukee/New Orleans pick they got from New Orleans, and stuff for Giannis. Trae/Giannis/Zingis coming down the pike.
 
NUMBERICA said:
Just so everyone knows, the Hawks are gonna trade Daniels, the better of Milwaukee/New Orleans pick they got from New Orleans, and stuff for Giannis. Trae/Giannis/Zingis coming down the pike.
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Doubt Giannis is giving Atlanta the OK that he's going to sign long term there to play with Trae.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Doubt Giannis is giving Atlanta the OK that he's going to sign long term there to play with Trae.
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I mean, they complement each other better than almost any duo I can think of. Would be madness.

I should also clarify, this would happen midseason so the Bucks could tank their asses off. Also, the Pelicans are for sure not making the playoffs and I still can’t believe the Queen trade. One of the worst in my lifetime.
 
NUMBERICA said:
I mean, they complement each other better than almost any duo I can think of. Would be madness.

I should also clarify, this would happen midseason so the Bucks could tank their asses off. Also, the Pelicans are for sure not making the playoffs and I still can’t believe the Queen trade. One of the worst in my lifetime.
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Didn't really work with Lillard and he, on paper, fit better with Giannis.

It's just pretty widely known players aren't thrilled to play with Tre
 
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Handlogten's Heros said:
I quoted a convo from Locke. I think its logical to think the negotiations were like 15-35M to start then would move to a more reasonable 20-30M range. Walker didn't hold out though. Jazz just said "we gotta preserve our precious cap space, so $20M or nah? We will get you 28-30M next summer for sure."

I heard somewhere that the Jazz were 50M apart... that could have been 20-30M or 25-35M though... so who knows.
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This is what I was remembering. $25M as the midpoint and $20-30M as the deal zone makes a lot of sense. If the Jazz are really at $25M and Kessler is at $30M they should be able to bridge that gap....but I actually think it's more like $20M and $30M and they just need to meet in the middle at $25M. Many ways that can make $30M feel the same to the Jazz as $25M with incentives, front loading, options/NG etc.

$15M is just a ridiculous starting point. I know that reflects his cap hold but that seems like a disrespectful number.
 
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