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jom2003 said:
com'on, just answer my question why don't you? it worked how? when defense has to collapse, who would houston be more willing to leave open? ingles, bojan or niang?

you admit it yourself. if the guy in the corner is an elite shooter like bojan, hou would probably not have executed the same play. hou deployed such strategy because they knew our players have troubles knocking down open shots all series long. it was their straregy, but that could easily backfire if niang was a real shooting threat and knocked down those shots they left for him to take like you suggested. but he wasn't. +11 is probably the only stats that worked in your favor because all other stats indicate that niang had a terrible outing. he shot 40% from the floor and 30% from deep, more specifically, he went 2 of 6(33%) from deep in that game, which justified hou's strategy handily.

have we had elite shooters like bojan or just niang for being who he is at the moment and shot, let's say, 4 of 6 or even 5 of 6 in that game, we'd have a chance at beating houston, or houston simply would not have executed that same game plan and would've focused on stopping our shooters instead and leaving more rooms to rudy and donovan.
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No, Houston would probably still execute the same defense. I said they might stop it if it didnt work. The Jazz shot far below their expected FG% for the shot quality they got that series. They just had a bad shooting series and it emboldened Houston's scheme. Niang is a real knockdown shooter.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
No, Houston would probably still execute the same defense. I said they might stop it if it didnt work. The Jazz shot far below their expected FG% for the shot quality they got that series. They just had a bad shooting series and it emboldened Houston's scheme. Niang is a real knockdown shooter.
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this is getting dumb. back it up with real facts why don't you? hou execute the defense because niang wasn't a knockdown shooter in their book. and he for sure didn't shoot like a real knockdown shooter for us during that series or else why did HOU's strategy worked and we ended up losing that series? don't argue against real facts Cy. you can't win it.
 
jom2003 said:
this is getting dumb. back it up with real facts why don't you? hou execute the defense because niang wasn't a knockdown shooter in their book. and he for sure didn't shoot like a real knockdown shooter for us during that series or else why did HOU's strategy worked and we ended up losing that series? don't argue against real facts Cy. you can't win it.
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Because Utah was cold and was missing shots. Houston's defense was a risk and it paid off for them. Utah just wasnt confident after those first two games were they played terribly. Ingles shot 28% from 3 in that series as well and he had plenty of wide open 3's. Same with Royce who shot 31% on nearly all open 3's. Houston's D would have backfired if Utah just shot how they usually shot on those open 3's. They just got unlucky.

ANd again, the gif you posted of the MItchell skip pass to NIang, Houston committed a full sprinting run by close out to contest the shot. They clearly respected Niang's shot you moron.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Because Utah was cold and was missing shots. Houston's defense was a risk and it paid off for them. Utah just wasnt confident after those first two games were they played terribly. Ingles shot 28% from 3 in that series as well and he had plenty of wide open 3's. Same with Royce who shot 31% on nearly all open 3's. Houston's D would have backfired if Utah just shot how they usually shot on those open 3's. They just got unlucky.
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hou wasn't leaving ingles open on purpose, many of his shots were either being set up by ball movements or simply heavily guarded. rubio shot horribly because of who he was. their cases serve as no excuse to niang's underwhelming shooting in that playoffs series.

if he really was a legit knockdown shooter like you suggested, why didn't he play like one?

you can cite his g-league or college numbers all you want, but as a jazz fan, i only care about his performance when it really matters. how hard is this for you to understand?
 
jom2003 said:
hou wasn't leaving ingles open on purpose, many of his shots were either being set up by ball movements or simply heavily guarded. rubio shot horribly because of who he was. their cases serve as no excuse to niang's underwhelming shooting in that playoffs series.

if he really was a legit knockdown shooter like you suggested, why didn't he play like one?

you can cite his g-league or college numbers all you want, but as a jazz fan, i only care about his performance when it really matters. how hard is this for you to understand?
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You are a ****ing moron who has no recollection of the Houston series.

https://stats.nba.com/player/204060/shots-dash/?Season=2018-19&SeasonType=Playoffs

Ingles had 4 WIDE OPEN attempts per game in that series and shot 20%. He had 1.4 "open" 3's a game and made 57% of those. He shot .4 contested 3's a game and made none.

Niang had 2 wide open 3's a game and made 30% of them. He had .4 open 3's a game and made 50% of them.

Sometimes players just have bad series.

And yes, games players play in matter. It's why teams pay people money to go and scout these games. It's like they are indicators or something.
 
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