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I’d also add, don’t just be “you’re racist! You’re sexist!”

Be passionate and firm but in control. Explain why, don’t lecture.
I’d point to Harris going at Biden and Castro going at Beto as examples.of what I mean.
 
Zombie said:
Yeah, no, I completely agree. She was not an inspiring at all. I think Warren and Sanders probably have the best chance of getting those voters who aren't going to turn out for a run of the mill establishment candidate. They both have a clear vision for America that is firmly planted in what's best for working and middle class Americans.
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Thanks for the laugh. Warren and Sanders for working and middle class Americans. Sorry middle class Americans don't want open borders, reparations, higher taxes, free everything, etc. etc.
 
Stoked said:
Lol, one we’ve all been making. At least on its base premise. Drive up the turn out. Such as the minority vote or older voters who rarely vote.

Constant cries of “he’s racist!” Wont he enough to do that by themselves. We’ve been doing it for 2 years and you risk burn out.

Sure point it out, but turn down the regularity of it and start finding something in their own candidate to get others excited about.

Good plan
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I think that burn out has already run its course with the accusations. It's been a non stop assault ever since Trump was the nominee and after a while, you just get tired of it. The one thing these past few years that I have noticed is that the left has not learned how to pick their battles and now are not taken as seriously in that regard. They are simply tuned out because they come off as unhinged lunatics. Should learn to be more calculated and sound more reasonable and they could likely turn some voters in their favor.
 
fishonjazz said:
To me thats a great look. I love a person who has the ability to have thier mind changed. Hate stubborn people who stick to their guns no matter what new info is shown to them and even when they know they are wrong.

Its wierd to me that this is a negative characteristic to a lot of people.

In fact there was something a while back that trump flip flopped on (or a better way to put it, changed his mind about). And the right thing to do was change his stance on it. I actually praised the son of a bitch if you can believe it.



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So me where on jazzfanz you praised Trump. You can't even talk about praising him without calling him a SOB.
 
The Thriller said:
Debated creating a new thread for this.

This might be one of the best twitter threads I’ve ever read. This is from a guy who worked in campaigns against Grand Wizard David Duke in 90 and 91. He offers advice to democrats that I find is invaluable.



What do you think?
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I think your very bias against Trump.
 
jazzrule said:
Thanks for the laugh. Warren and Sanders for working and middle class Americans. Sorry middle class Americans don't want open borders, reparations, higher taxes, free everything, etc. etc.
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Neither of them want an open border nor do they want to give everyone free everything. My guess is your etc etc are also false information.

While I don't like Sanders policies, he would have easily won against Trump last election if he had got the Democrat nomination.
 
The Thriller said:
Debated creating a new thread for this.

This might be one of the best twitter threads I’ve ever read. This is from a guy who worked in campaigns against Grand Wizard David Duke in 90 and 91. He offers advice to democrats that I find is invaluable.



What do you think?
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One thing he really hits the nail on the head on is that people who voted for Trump aren’t going to switch their votes because they aren’t that type of person.

I was super young during Obama’s first election but the one thing I do remember that he did successfully was getting more people out to vote and that’s what the Democratic nominee needs to do.

He’s right the focus shouldn’t be changing the minds of people who previously voted for Trump but rather getting people to understand the issue and to get out and vote.

Hillary won the popular vote and she was a horrible candidate. Imagine what could happen if the Democrats can get a solid nominee.
 
Zombie said:
I'm not quite sure what you're saying here. His case is that we should make Trump's racism and authoritarianism the issue of the election, because it represents an existential threat to the American way of life. Not that we should talk about those issues less.

The way I see it, the candidate with the best chance is the one who will make the case for a vision of America that lives up to our ideals of a truly fair and equal society, and why they rather than Trump lives up to those ideals.
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I'm not saying this as a plug for Biden, but some months ago, well before he became a candidate, he said we were involved in a "battle for the soul of America". I suppose that'd not for everyone, but it always made me feel it was right, because "who are we, who do we want to be, what is being asked of us as a nation of equal citizens?", all these questions are at the heart of the juncture at which we find ourselves. And a battle for the soul of America is a battle for our identity, and that is what we are involved in, and protecting what we created in 1789, and preserving this polity as a force for good, and yes, it is a good idea to drive a point like this home.

We are in a privlaged position, our generation. We get to choose not to let hatred and bigotry be our face to the world.
 
Red said:
I'm not saying this as a plug for Biden, but some months ago, well before he became a candidate, he said we were involved in a "battle for the soul of America". I suppose that'd not for everyone, but it always made me feel it was right, because "who are we, who do we want to be, what is being asked of us as a nation of equal citizens?", all these questions are at the heart of the juncture at which we find ourselves. And a battle for the soul of America is a battle for our identity, and that is what we are involved in, and protecting what we created in 1789, and preserving this polity as a force for good, and yes, it is a good idea to drive a point like this home.

We are in a privlaged position, our generation. We get to choose not to let hatred and bigotry be our face to the world.
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We definitely don't want to be a liberal socialist state.
 
Zombie said:
I'm not quite sure what you're saying here. His case is that we should make Trump's racism and authoritarianism the issue of the election, because it represents an existential threat to the American way of life. Not that we should talk about those issues less.

The way I see it, the candidate with the best chance is the one who will make the case for a vision of America that lives up to our ideals of a truly fair and equal society, and why they, rather than Trump, live up to those ideals.
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Sounds like Bernie.
 
Bernie not paying his workers what he wants all of America to be paid for a minimum wage, then finally doing it when they complained about it to the media, AND then lowering hours so that everybody can get that wage is prime.

I mean, they don't write scripts that well. My goodness. It's almost like that's what some of us conservatives have been saying the whole time!
 
RandyForRubio said:
Bernie not paying his workers what he wants all of America to be paid for a minimum wage, then finally doing it when they complained about it to the media, AND then lowering hours so that everybody can get that wage is prime.

I mean, they don't write scripts that well. My goodness. It's almost like that's what some of us conservatives have been saying the whole time!
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His campaign is literally showing why that high of a wage hike is unrealistic.
 
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