2020 Presidential election
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NAOS
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I definitely think there are improvements that can be made. The biggest problems to overcome are (a) the size of institutions, (b) their business-like objectives around growing the size of the student bodies (undergrad through post-doc)—rather than something that is more concretely merit-based and supported from matriculation through post-graduate hiring, and (c) turning themselves into R&D farms for local corporations. These three things, in particular, make it hard to monitor and care about so-called “fringe” classes or “remedial education” (I’d strike both terms from the mouths of any university).
I wouldn’t argue for universal standards. I’d make sure that the leadership of the University has the institution pointed toward the right objectives, and that the teachers were being paid a living wage. We’re failing pretty wildly on both accounts at most universities.
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Avery
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NAOS
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Bro, why u spending your heat on that bot?
Yeah, never
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but seriously, it took me five seconds to disprove you.
Do you ever test your beliefs? Ever try to prove yourself wrong?
You are going through an ignorance filled life, don't you want to change that?
It can be uncomfortable, but isn't it better than being permanently stupid?
It must be frustrating having absolutely nothing sticking to Joe Biden.
But the stink of desperation is pretty rotten
NAOS
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Exercise that Ignore List broYeah, never
Homebuilders see strongest May sales in over a decade, but they have a big problem
Sales of newly built homes jumped far more than expected in May, according to the U.S. Census. After slowing dramatically in March, as the coronavirus shut down the economy, they posted the strongest May pace since 2007, a recovery that surprised even the builders themselves. But housing starts...www.cnbc.com
but seriously, it took me five seconds to disprove you.
Do you ever test your beliefs? Ever try to prove yourself wrong?
You are going through an ignorance filled life, don't you want to change that?
It can be uncomfortable, but isn't it better than being permanently stupid?
I took skiing, billiards and basketball in college, it is good to have some fun. Even in college, social aspects still need to be learned, and having a balance is good for mental health. I took 18 credits every fall, 9 credits every spring (skied three days and went to school two days) and took a couple summer online courses to stay on schedule. If I could go back in time, I would have taken my summers off and stayed in school another year. One of the best periods of my life. Time rich and cash poor and I loved it.
I think eventually this country will go towards more subsidies for college, and eventually free. I think a good start is super discounted community college (maybe free based on meeting qualifications-idea below), and low cost for the additional two years at a university. I don't think it should all be free. People need to value their education. Degrees beyond a bachelors should be less subsidized. As I said above, I just don't want it to turn into free private education. We need reform, and need to bring these high cost schools in line, not provide them even more money with no checks.
I also think we need to retrofit our high schools to make grades 11/12 to include 50% college level courses available as the status quo (students could opt out-college is not for everyone, but make it the norm). And if you take these courses, not only do you get a free year of college (possible to get a year of college credit in HS currently, but not emphasized as much as it should be), you could also get a bonus free year or two years of state college as a automatic scholarship for those students that take advantage of the high school program. Maybe year 2 free, and year three and four 50% off. Essentially reward students for working hard, which will take burden off the taxpayers of subsidizing college for an additional year, etc. Use this as an opportunity to provide qualified teachers to get paid more in high school if they get the extra training and qualifications to teach these upper level courses. I say this as someone who slacked off in high school and felt like I was being babysat and not taught. I was going to a state university, so had no real advantage for working super hard at the time.
I also think any discounts/free college should only apply for the requisite number of years needed to graduate. So if you take 6 years to get through a four year program, years 5-6 cost you and not the taxpayer.
This obviously doesn't take into account the lack of opportunity/poor secondary school programs/etc., in many parts of the country, but that is a whole other discussion.
Sure, PJF is off his rocker, but nothing sticking to Biden? Yeah, sexual assault accusations is not a big deal.
Imagine if Trump "whitesplained" to a black person that they aren't black if they don't vote for him like Biden did. Biden is the lesser of two evils, but that doesn't make him good. Does anyone truly like him? Sure, he secures the nomination for the Dems, but is it worth it? Dems protected Clinton and now Biden. Rhinos do the same for Trump and Kavanaugh. With the outrage Dems had regarding Kavanaugh (and rightly so), their silence regarding the accusations against Biden show it was all political.
No matter what barrel you put your ladle in, the water is dirty.
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That's why when trump isn't involved I just pass on the **** stew that I'm offered
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Jazz4ever
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This. You can't put that preposterous bill of $60,000-80,000 onto the taxpayer. Also think of the men and women who sacrificed so much to get their tuition paid off the last 10 years, do they get anything? No? That's bending them over a barrel.