Coronavirus

[The Thriller]

Not uncommon, and that sucks!

Yes it does. I’d hate to get it again all because someone watches too much Fox News. Those people are the ones who should be stuck at home, not people like me. That’s why I support vaccine mandates. And I had a “mild” case!

 

[Hax0rs]

If someone decides not to get the vaccine and infects one of my kids, do I get to sue them in the same way as if they were careless in carrying around harmful chemicals?


This is a lie. You may not know it, but it is a lie nonetheless.

You can’t sue Pfizer or Moderna if you have severe Covid vaccine side effects. The government likely won't compensate you for damages either

Companies like Pfizer and Moderna have total immunity from legal liability under the PREP Act if something unintentionally goes wrong with their Covid vaccines.

www.cnbc.com

You may not think up to $50K a year is insufficient, but it is certainly more than dung.

The government has created a way for people to recover some damages should something go wrong following immunization.

In addition to the legal immunity, the PREP Act established the Countermeasures Injury Compensation Program (CICP), which provides benefits to eligible individuals who suffer serious injury from one of the protected companies.

The little-known government program has been around for a decade, and it is managed by an agency under HHS. This fund typically only deals with vaccines you probably would never get, like the H1N1 and anthrax vaccines.

If a case for compensation through the CICP is successful, the program provides up to $50,000 per year in unreimbursed lost wages and out-of-pocket medical expenses. It won’t cover legal fees or anything to compensate for pain and suffering.

It is also capped at the death benefit of $370,376, which is the most a surviving family member receives in the event that a Covid vaccine proves to be fatal.

Do you get to sue someone if they give your daughter the flu, I mean I guess you could try.

You MAY be compensated for lost wages and out of pocket medical expenses...thats it. Its also capped at 370,000, what do you do if you happen to get that money and it runs out?

Your so disingenuous, to act like that 50k is there for anyone who has a problem with the vaccine.

 

[Hax0rs]

Yes it does. I’d hate to get it again all because someone watches too much Fox News. Those people are the ones who should be stuck at home, not people like me. That’s why I support vaccine mandates. And I had a “mild” case!

If they force vaccines, they need to force people to lose weight too. Its the fat asses that are incubators for this virus, government mandate weight loss.

 

[fishonjazz]

If they force vaccines, they need to force people to lose weight too. Its the fat asses that are incubators for this virus, government mandate weight loss.

Apples to oranges.
Vaccine cost me nothing and took 2 seconds.


Losing weight is much harder. I would like there to be more incentives and pushes for better health for the people of our country though.

If there ever is a simple and free way to lose weight (like a shot in the arm) and make us healthier then I think mandates would be a good idea.

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[One Brow]

Do you get to sue someone if they give your daughter the flu, I mean I guess you could try.

That would certainly encourage vaccinations, if it were feasible.

You MAY be compensated for lost wages and out of pocket medical expenses...thats it. Its also capped at 370,000, what do you do if you happen to get that money and it runs out?

What are you getting that you can't live off of that, combined with disability checks, etc.?

At any rate, your comment was patently false, which was my point.

Your so disingenuous, to act like that 50k is there for anyone who has a problem with the vaccine.

Does "anyone who has a problem" need 50K, or are there some problems so minor they don't need to be compensated.

 

[Douchebag K]

Why is Israel so different from other countries in this regard?

dude .. they're being used as a good place to study because they got their vaccine program out so quickly and early ... ???

 

[Douchebag K]

Apples to oranges.
Vaccine cost me nothing and took 2 seconds.


Losing weight is much harder. I would like there to be more incentives and pushes for better health for the people of our country though.

If there ever is a simple and free way to lose weight (like a shot in the arm) and make us healthier then I think mandates would be a good idea.

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To play devils advocate the issue of treating vaccinated or unvaccinated people differently is a very very slippery slope though. There are so many choices people make with regards to their health to either look after themselves or not and therefore have their immune systems depressed or boosted

 

[bigb]

I guess, if you take his statement literally. But we all know where Bronco stands politically. It’s hard not to see that guide his opinion on vaccines and vaccine mandates over genuine confusion over HIPAA. Especially since this information is fairly easy to look up.

As an administrator in education, I have some understanding of HIPAA and other policies which protect privacy. While I don’t blame anyone for genuinely getting confused in the myriad of privacy policies, this one about vaccines violating HIPAA is pretty inexcusable. Like this stupid conspiracy began months ago by right wing figures like MTG and has also been debunked months ago as well.

People really need to seek better sources of information and check and then recheck the information. Not just accept it blindly because a relative told them or because it confirms their conservative political bias, as I believe is what happened here.

First, I’m not Bronco. I don’t like anything Bronco related. But whatevs. And please, tell me where I stand politically. Should be fun.


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[Hax0rs]

Apples to oranges.
Vaccine cost me nothing and took 2 seconds.


Losing weight is much harder. I would like there to be more incentives and pushes for better health for the people of our country though.

If there ever is a simple and free way to lose weight (like a shot in the arm) and make us healthier then I think mandates would be a good idea.

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Its not though if we look at it through the lens that Liberals/Socialists/Communists are using on this board.

Your whole argument is unvaccinated people are making it unsafe for vaccinated people, which is yet to be proven. So far outside of the United States, over 50% of new cases are in vaccinated patients.

My argument is fat people are making it unsafe for healthy people, which has been proven. Fat people are incubators for the covid virus, they should be forced into health camps until they can be fit.

Same argument, means of force to achieve wanted results. This is the leftist way.

 

[Hax0rs]

That would certainly encourage vaccinations, if it were feasible.

But it's not feasible and you know that, which is why your lawsuit would be thrown out. So I guess you answered your own question.

What are you getting that you can't live off of that, combined with disability checks, etc.?

At any rate, your comment was patently false, which was my point.

Its not false and you're lying. The vaccine companies got laws passed which removes liability for this experimental vaccine. You cannot sue the vaccine companies, you know thats true, why leave that out of your little 50k a year maxxed at 370k assessment?

You think these people who are having kidney and heart failure from this vaccine are going to be good on that 50k this year? If you believe that you're a moron and need to look into health care costs.

 

[fishonjazz]

Its not though if we look at it through the lens that Liberals/Socialists/Communists are using on this board.

Your whole argument is unvaccinated people are making it unsafe for vaccinated people, which is yet to be proven. So far outside of the United States, over 50% of new cases are in vaccinated patients.

My argument is fat people are making it unsafe for healthy people, which has been proven. Fat people are incubators for the covid virus, they should be forced into health camps until they can be fit.

Same argument, means of force to achieve wanted results. This is the leftist way.

Let me know when they make a vaccine that prevents or fixes obesity and I will be willing to continue this conversation further.

Also, how are fat people making something unsafe for healthy people again? I'm in great shape. When I around fat people I continue to be in great shape. Fatness isn't contagious imo.

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[One Brow]

dude .. they're being used as a good place to study because they got their vaccine program out so quickly and early ... ???

dude, that didn't answer my question at all. Why would you think I was focused on why there was a study there? There are covid19 studies all over the world, why not in Israel?

In Israel, there is a much higher percentage of vaccinated people getting sick and dying than in any other country in the world. Why is Israel different in this regard? Did they get a bad batch of vaccines? Is it that Israel already has a 90-95% immunization rate, so we would expect that more of the sick would have been vaccinated even when the vaccine is extremely effective?

 

[One Brow]

So far outside of the United States, over 50% of new cases are in vaccinated patients.

This is a lie.

 

[Hax0rs]

This is a lie.

No its not, Israel alone has 75% of new cases in vaccinated patients. India is something like 65%. So you're the one who's full of **** and cant respond to the rest

 

[One Brow]

Its not false and you're lying.

Your claim was, "If people ... end up with side effects 10 years down the line, you don't get **** either", which was and is a lie. Now that you've seen and acknowledge the equality, repeating this claim makes you a knowing liar.

The vaccine companies got laws passed which removes liability for this experimental vaccine.

Another lie. You're referring to 42 USC 247d-6d, of course.

https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=(title:42%20section:247d-6d%20edition:prelim#amendment-note

The only amendment since 2013 covers "a personal respiratory protective device", not vaccines.

You cannot sue the vaccine companies, you know thats true,

I know it's a lie spread by grifters who seek to profit from your fear. Are you a grifter or one of their dupes?

You think these people who are having kidney and heart failure from this vaccine ...

There are no such people. There are certainly people who experience heart and kidney failure after being vaccinated, or after watching Loki on Disney+, or after the solar eclipse, but the heart/kidney failure was not cause by the eclipse, nor by Loki, nor buy the vaccine.

 

[One Brow]

No its not, Israel alone has 75% of new cases in vaccinated patients.

Yes, Israel alone.

India is something like 65%.

Only 6% of the Indian population is sully vaccinated. This is about as stupid of a lie as you can have.

So you're the one who's full of ****

Since you're ignorant of the most basic facts, I don't take this very seriously.

 

[Hax0rs]

Only 6% of the Indian population is sully vaccinated. This is about as stupid of a lie as you can have.
Since you're ignorant of the most basic facts, I don't take this very seriously.

Yes, 65% of those 6% are included in the new cases. Why are you so deceitful?

 

[Hax0rs]

Your claim was, "If people ... end up with side effects 10 years down the line, you don't get **** either", which was and is a lie. Now that you've seen and acknowledge the equality, repeating this claim makes you a knowing liar.

https://www.news18.com/news/buzz/am...9-vaccine-side-effects-heres-why-3190154.html

My bad, I see why you're being so deceitful, you're playing word games.

"If people end up with side effects 10 years down the line , you don't get **** from the vaccine companies, you may be able to get up to 50k a year, maxed at 370k, by the government"

Is that better for you little word game player?

 

[Hax0rs]

There are no such people. There are certainly people who experience heart and kidney failure after being vaccinated, or after watching Loki on Disney+, or after the solar eclipse, but the heart/kidney failure was not cause by the eclipse, nor by Loki, nor buy the vaccine.

....and another lie. There are THOUSANDS of healthy people who are reporting kidney or heart failure due to the vaccine.

 

[Hax0rs]

Also, how are fat people making something unsafe for healthy people again? I'm in great shape. When I around fat people I continue to be in great shape. Fatness isn't contagious imo.

Fat people are better incubators for the virus, therefore, fat people are more likely to hold and spread the virus.