Beer
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Just checked, actually dropped 1 patient hospitalized overall. So 149 in the entire state. I'm sure Thriller is annoyed he can't scare the **** out of everyone with that # though.
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Just checked, actually dropped 1 patient hospitalized overall. So 149 in the entire state. I'm sure Thriller is annoyed he can't scare the **** out of everyone with that # though.
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That's weird. That's not what the Dnews says:
https://www.deseret.com/utah/2020/6...daily-record-586-new-confirmed-cases-3-deaths
According to the state, 60.5 percent of ICU beds are now occupied, which is up from the 48 percent we had at Memorial Day. Not exactly the trend we want:
https://coronavirus-dashboard.utah.gov/#hospitalizations-mortality
Do you have alternative data? Could you post it? Where are you getting your information from? Remember, just because you see something on Facebook doesn't mean it's true.
Beer
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Sorry, not good at mathematics. I am good at determining whether we should actually be scared though. And 149 in the ENTIRE STATE is not scary not matter how many people get it.
The more important question is how many of those ICU beds are COVID. I know that, as of yesterday, one of the largest hospitals in the state had a total of 4 people in the ICU with COVID. Not only are there a lot of ICU beds in this hospital, but there are multiple ICUs. And, as I've stated previously, every hospital's census was at records lows because of COVID and as things open back up, you'll see bed occupancy return toward normal. I mean, this is like Trump boasting about jobs numbers because people who were essentially furloughed returned back to work. They weren't new jobs. This is the same thing.
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right.
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But doesn’t hospitalization typically follow cases by 7-10 days? I mean, the new cases today aren’t immediately reporting to the hospital today, right? So with trends looking at 500-600 new cases daily this week and next. And July continuing this trend where we will most likely see daily new cases into 800-1200. One can assess that hospitalizations will increase as well, right?
These trends need to change, right? We should be working to lower the daily case number, right? Especially since the fall will see competition with the illnesses of flu and pneumonia competing for ICU beds along with covid.
Beer
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My point is, you focus on the scary #'s. Not the #'s that are actually relevant. I had corona, I couldn't smell anything for 2 weeks, thats about it. now I understand, extremely fat, old, near death people will have a different experience. I'm sure you'll pull the 1 in 100,000 example out of your *** to try and disprove that but those are the facts. Extremely fat, old, and unhealthy are "supposed" to die when they get a serious sickness. The circle of life if you will.
There is no reason for people to freak out, or go back into lockdown. Wear masks, it did but it didn't save me but hey, I did my best. Now if I was a fat unhealthy old person I would be extremely cautious. But it's not up to everyone else to disrupt their lives and be responsible for me.
Ya know?
Keep pushing the scariest #'s you can find though.
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This post deserves no response that takes more than 10 seconds to type.
Beer
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Those are the facts. Take 10 seconds to **** your pants about a bunch of people getting it and having not much more than common cold symptoms though.
https://www.businessinsider.com/tru...JyZ2feRC-UI8P70gy8Vrji31KxuKqJlyYc8zx1GEukkds
Yep. He got me. Exactly why I wear a mask. Could the man be any more narcissistic?
Yep. He got me. Exactly why I wear a mask. Could the man be any more narcissistic?
The hospitalizations will trail the new cases rate (sometimes, a lot of time people are under investigation while in the hospital), but my point is more that using the current trend is not very meaningful, because the reason for the increased capacity is not because of COVID. To give you an idea of what the hospitals are anticipating, when this whole thing got moving and there was serious scare about totally overwhelming the systems, they were inquiring with people far removed from general or primary care their comfort level with managing ER and general med/surg patients (psychiatrists, pathologists, radiologists, opthalmologists, etc.). They are not asking those questions anymore.
But, yes, if things trend where 800-1,200 new cases daily is the norm, hospitalizations would increase. If they are increasing proportionally, then there's still plenty of capacity because 4 people in an ICU, with only two on vents, is a very small amount for a level II trauma center.
My presumption is that with all new infections (nationwide, any given locality may have different dynamics) you'll see a skewing toward younger people, as a lot of people are self-selecting out of what interactions they have when they go out, so you will see the infection rates and mortality rates continue to grow farther apart, and it will take a higher % of the population to be infected to translate to additional hospitalizations/deaths than it did 2-3 months ago.
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It’s always about him. Whether it’s the Mueller Report, race relations, the media, tariffs, congressional oversight, judges, or a pandemic where people are wearing masks to protect themselves and others from a killer virus. It’s always about him and how he’s the victim. Me me me