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Bucknutz said:
Wow, an emotional response. Trying to say I don’t care because people have died from the virus. Garbage response. I have lost a friend and customers of mine from it. It has hurt my business and other businesses all over the world. It has hurt my kids and other kids with schools closures and education.
You probably don’t even know what’s going on with SBA and small businesses that are about to go under.
Just a garbage response.
Don’t you give a **** about 500,000 Americans dead because of medical errors the last 2 years.
Don’t you give a **** about 960,000 deaths from smoking the last 2 years.

Garbage response.
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So you are running the American flag punisher decal on the truck that you can't park correctly, confirmed.

I'm done for tonight my freedom fighting (for evil) friend. I hope evil doesn't win, sorry. Better luck next time.
 
Gameface said:
Quick question Bucknutz, do you drive a truck with a Punisher decal that makes a mockery of the American flag on it? I'm totally feeling that vibe from you.

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Another Garbage post. Just trash. First a fake emotional response. Now trying to respond with a personal attack that is so far off. I don’t drive a truck and I’ve never had a decal on my car.

Just another trash post.
 
Gameface said:
Hundreds and hundreds of millions have gotten the vaccine.

You scared? Maybe you're just a *****.
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Ive been infected by Covid twice. The second time was worse than the first. I believe in natural antibodies and vaccines. Not scared of vaccines, my whole family has received them. I just don’t see the need for myself right now. I’m waiting for more information to come out.
I read one week that natural antibodies last longer and then the next week another report says they dont. There are now a pill in the works as well. Hybrid immunity and its benefits is also a topic I’m researching as well.
The virus can affect each person differently.

This is why it should be a personal decision and not a federal mandate. I know my history better than someone in Washington. I know my risks, my surroundings, who I interact with, the area I live in, my occupation, my family, my medical history, my doctors recommendations.
I know I give up international traveling because of my decision. I respect business’s policies that require masks or vaccine passports and follow their requests. So if they ask me not to come in, I won’t. If friend or customer asks me to wear a mask near them I will.
Be respectful to each other and their requests.
 
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Seems like Covid in Africa is a lot worse than initially thought. Turns out, if you don’t test for Covid, it doesn’t mean you don’t have it. You still might have it. You just won’t know for sure and it makes it much harder to contain.

 
Bucknutz said:
Wow, an emotional response. Trying to say I don’t care because people have died from the virus. Garbage response. I have lost a friend and customers of mine from it. It has hurt my business and other businesses all over the world. It has hurt my kids and other kids with schools closures and education.
You probably don’t even know what’s going on with SBA and small businesses that are about to go under.
Just a garbage response.
Don’t you give a **** about 500,000 Americans dead because of medical errors the last 2 years.
Don’t you give a **** about 960,000 deaths from smoking the last 2 years.

Garbage response.
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If you care about small businesses and their well-being then you should be a huge proponent of vaccines over natural infection. In fact, you should wish for more vaccine mandates to improve the health and confidence of both labor and capital.
 
More good news for health and science. And yet another thing for Trumpers to poo poo on, because their tribe has decided to be against science, while they chug horse dewormer.

 
It’ll be interesting to read at some point how much anti vax crap on social media is due to the propaganda churned up by the west’s enemies who love seeing us at war with each other over Something obvious, like getting vaccinated. My guess is Russia especially, is loving FB and all the anti vax groups they’ve helped inspire.

 
Bucknutz said:
Forcing businesses to police their employers.
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Just like when businesses are required to post hand-washing signs, use triple sinks so there is a sanitizer bath, etc., etc., etc. Nothing new here.

Bucknutz said:
This isn’t a business policy, it’s the federal government making policies. This can force businesses to spend more money, money they might not be able to pay, coming back from lock downs.
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Vaccines are free, sick time is built into most employee packages, and this only affects large employers.
 
Bucknutz said:
Okay, what about natural immunity?
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It's less effective than being vaccinated.

Bucknutz said:
What does the mandate say about this? Also the mandate says 2 doses. According to many studies, you’re not fully vaccinated with only 2 doses, you need boosters.
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Mostly for people of retirement age or with comorbidities.

Bucknutz said:
Also why are only businesses with only 100+ employees required? So if a businesses that has 105 employees, doesn’t believe in the mandate, the can fires 5 vaccinated persons to get under the threshold?
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This is America.

Bucknutz said:
I believe in vaccinations and I’m glad a large part of the population is vaccinated, I just don’t believe in mandating them.
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I believe in public health, and in treating this vaccine like the other dozen or so vaccines we have.
 
The Thriller said:
More good news for health and science. And yet another thing for Trumpers to poo poo on, because their tribe has decided to be against science, while they chug horse dewormer.

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This is what I was taking about. Why vaccinate when a promising anti-Viral pill that has a 90% effect on an an unvaccinated person. Especially when the vaccine drops in effectiveness over a few months. https://www.latimes.com/science/sto...-effectiveness-of-covid-19-vaccines?_amp=true

Annual/Bi-Annual Covid booster or a pill?
This is a winning product and something more people in the nation would be willing to take.

It’s been over a year thriller…you sound like the same people who keep complaining about Obama.
 
One Brow said:
Just like when businesses are required to post hand-washing signs, use triple sinks so there is a sanitizer bath, etc., etc., etc. Nothing new here.


Vaccines are free, sick time is built into most employee packages, and this only affects large employers.
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Yes because a retail business that doesn’t have a hand washing sign, you’re fined $136,000 an occurrence or $13,600. Just another garbage response.
Vaccines are free? Sick time at some businesses are personal days (used for both).
100 employees is not a large employer, this is still a small business size.
Put some effort in your responses,
 
A vaccination is always going to be more effective than a pill. That said, if the pill helps combat this epidemic, I'm all for it.

Why a person believes a pill is okay but a vaccine isn't in terms of 'my body, my choice' is perplexing, but won't get into that.

Probably should have invested in some Pfizer stock for when they milk a few more billions from the government.
 
Archie Moses said:
I get it, but yeah, it was his personal business if you believe in freedom.
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Is it also my personal business if i take a gun somewhere and start shooting?
You do realize that someone not getting vaccinated leads to other peoples death right?


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Bucknutz said:
View attachment 11344It doesn’t look like a business has a choice. It seems like over the last few pages people are arguing over if a business has the right to require vaccinations. Both the business and the person might not have a choice, decided by the federal government.
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There is still choice. More than a couple in fact
A. Get vaccinated
B. Dont get vaccinated and take covid tests
C. Work someplace that requires neither testing or vaccines
D. Dont work.


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Bucknutz said:
Forcing companies to pay for extra sick time for vaccinations. Single occurrence penalties of up to $13,600. $136,000 penalties for employers that don’t agree.
Forcing businesses to police their employers.

This isn’t a business policy, it’s the federal government making policies. This can force businesses to spend more money, money they might not be able to pay, coming back from lock downs.
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Kinda similar to state government making kids get vaccinated to go to school and federal government making military get vaccinated. And making me wear a seatbelt or face the consequences. Totally unprecedented stuff


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Bucknutz said:
This is what I was taking about. Why vaccinate when a promising anti-Viral pill that has a 90% effect on an an unvaccinated person. Especially when the vaccine drops in effectiveness over a few months. https://www.latimes.com/science/sto...-effectiveness-of-covid-19-vaccines?_amp=true

Annual/Bi-Annual Covid booster or a pill?
This is a winning product and something more people in the nation would be willing to take.

It’s been over a year thriller…you sound like the same people who keep complaining about Obama.
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But that pill is new!!!!!! Have to wait 20 years to see the long term effects tbh. Now excuse while i take my prozac, viagra, blood pressure medicine etc (all of which i have no idea what it will do to me in 20 years)


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