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LOL, wut???

“He’s just so thought provoking!”



My goodness, the American response has been a disaster. Both the substance of Donald’s policy and messaging. Ben Shapiro is a complete dumbass.
 
The case to death ratios being reported vary so much amongst states that I question the right number. NY was always so high yet Florida is having more people test positive but far fewer deaths. Of course, general 'flu' deaths are also 4x in many of these states which seems to be a not so subtle anomaly.

I fear that none of us will be able to truly understand the statistics around this.
 
The case to death ratios being reported vary so much amongst states that I question the right number. NY was always so high yet Florida is having more people test positive but far fewer deaths. Of course, general 'flu' deaths are also 4x in many of these states which seems to be a not so subtle anomaly.

I fear that none of us will be able to truly understand the statistics around this.
NY and NJ account for 1/3 total COVID deaths in the US. Most of this was in nursing homes. Plus the debacle of sending positive patients back to nursing homes. Nursing homes are under much more strict requirements now than they were then. Nursing homes will not take a patient (any patient) without a negative COVID test, and even then they often quarantine them within the facility upon arrival. People can’t even see their families. If you’ll remember, everyone complained about not enough testing back in March and April. We’re currently running about a million tests per day. I’ll post more later but I’ve gotta run for the moment.
 
Okay, so getting back to this... serological studies indicated that as of June, about 25% of New York City had COVID. That's 2 million people. Now consider that New York State only has 434k confirmed cases. Now we're running massive testing and it's distorting the picture for everyone. Absolutely nowhere is like New York, but because we're getting all these positive tests back, we're seeing the amount of positive cases exceeding that of NY back during their peak, and we're making the assumption that this is the same thing or worse. I can't find the graph right now, but if you actually look at the curves of deaths per capita over time, NY has a huge spike and tails off. Absolutely no other state that everyone is panicking about has any kind of spike. They trend up in a slow, flat line. But the difference is drastic. I'll have to find it.

Anyway, for all the discussion about how bad off the US is, here's a per capita breakdown of deaths for COVID:51C269E3-8713-4F13-8FE9-D197373523C8.png

The main reason I link this graph is for a country comparison. However, it is worth noting that the largest component that makes up the US' death curve is due to what happened in the northeast when this all got rolling. My point isn't to make this political, as I think simplistically laying blame at the feet of Cuomo lacks nuance (but does warrant discussion). When COVID hit, it was like game 1 of the playoffs. Sure, you can go into it with a plan, but as soon as you play that first game, you realize (in hindsight) that there were perhaps some glaring holes in your game plan that perhaps were simple to fix. Forcing COVID+ patients back to nursing homes is a massive blunder. But I'm willing to judge that from that place in time rather than by hindsight. Obviously, even given that context, it's still problematic, but these are live situations and lay society has this inborn belief that bad things don't happen, and when bad things happen the explanation is some kind of villain causing something unnatural. But that's just often not the case. And then there's the reality that New York is one of the most highly densely populated areas in the entire world. So, you could certainly play politics here, but it lacks nuance. I'm sure everyone would agree with me on that to some extent. But I don't think people would agree with that regarding any of these other states that are nothing like New York that we're currently playing politics with. Nobody wants nuance. Nuance is a one-way street.

So, there's COVID discussion, and then there's discussion as if we're watching a Marvel movie, where there's a team of heroes going up against a team of villains. I like good COVID discussion. Too much it looks like everyone's talking about a movie, and they're at the midnight showing dressed up as their favorite character.
 
This is going get a lot of people infected, with long term problems, and some killed
 
This is going get a lot of people infected, with long term problems, and some killed
Hopefully after the kids get over the virus they will also be able to get over their parents or grandparents deaths just as easily.

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Hopefully after the kids get over the virus they will also be able to get over their parents or grandparents deaths just as easily.

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Exactly.

I mean that governor’s juvenile thinking explains so much. It’s no wonder why we can’t get this virus under control or provide desperate workers and businesses the financial aid that they need.

These people are our leaders? SMH...
 
@infection I am starting to hear more and more about anecdotal evidence showing that that insuffcient levels of vitamin D will make covid symptoms much worse. Have you heard or read anything about this?
Yes. I haven't dug into it much, but my immediate suspicion is that low vitamin D is going to be a marker for underlying disease and lifestyle that doesn't mix particularly well with COVID.
 
I don't know if anyone other than infection is a practicing medical professional, but would love to hear opinions on MedCram.
This is a great MedCram update on the effects of Vitamin D as it relates to COVID.
 
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