Coronavirus

[Deleted member 365]

In Utah cases have started trending downward. Not back to shutdown levels yet, but going the right direction.

Obviously with strong support for facemasks and people realizing we weren't done with this yet we have been able to reduce the spread.

With vaccine trials going well we might get through this afterall!

Some good signs. But our testing has gone down from about 7-9k to 4-5k per day and test positivity has crept up from about 7-8 percent to 9-10 percent. I’m hearing it’s taking 3+ days for people to get test results in northern Utah. Maybe we took to heart Trump’s demand to slow down the testing?

 

[Deleted member 365]

So I read recently that cult 45 was promoting a dr who was pimping hydroxy and also claiming that the virus was creating by demon sperm and aliens?

 

[infection]

Some good signs. But our testing has gone down from about 7-9k to 4-5k per day and test positivity has crept up from about 7-8 percent to 9-10 percent. I’m hearing it’s taking 3+ days for people to get test results in northern Utah. Maybe we took to heart Trump’s demand to slow down the testing?

Let’s go to the data:



Sorry for the image. It wouldn't do a screen capture like this on my phone. This is from https://coronavirus.utah.gov/case-counts/ . As you can see, there's a lag in reporting, which is why they shade the last three days and asterisk them as being incomplete. These are the ones you're referencing as 4-5k per day. So your comparison of 7-9k tests per day comes from the days directly preceding when one enters the lag period. And, since positives are likely reported first, as you can see that the negatives are what is lagging, then yes, it looks like the positivity percentage is up when you look at the days that are specifically qualified as being incomplete.

But, to the larger issue of the idea of the US slowing down testing, this graph is helpful:

Also, the US has preformed more tests in July alone than any other country has during the entire pandemic.

 

[Deleted member 365]

Let’s go to the data:

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Sorry for the image. It wouldn't do a screen capture like this on my phone. This is from https://coronavirus.utah.gov/case-counts/ . As you can see, there's a lag in reporting, which is why they shade the last three days and asterisk them as being incomplete. These are the ones you're referencing as 4-5k per day. So your comparison of 7-9k tests per day comes from the days directly preceding when one enters the lag period. And, since positives are likely reported first, as you can see that the negatives are what is lagging, then yes, it looks like the positivity percentage is up when you look at the days that are specifically qualified as being incomplete.

But, to the larger issue of the idea of the US slowing down testing, this graph is helpful:

Also, the US has preformed more tests in July alone than any other country has during the entire pandemic.

My comment was in response to Utah’s own testing dip.

 

[infection]

My comment was in response to Utah’s own testing dip.

I know. And, as mentioned above, it hasn't demonstrated to be a dip unless those numbers stay low after the lag period ends. But regarding the US testing, I'm only mentioning that because this meme of Trump talking about slowing down testing tends to side track people from adequately gauging the reality of the amount of testing that's happening. We're testing nearly a million people per day. For reference, the past ten years we've been averaging 77,000 tests per year for influenza.

 

[Deleted member 365]

There is good news. Utah fell below 60 percent ICU capacity for the first time in months.

The number of those in the ICU with covid has been dropping since 7/23.

What is worry about are our drops in testing (the delay for days makes tracing and containment impossible) and a false sense of security to reopen in person schooling, football, and proceed as normal. The premature and rushed opening of the economy in May created unnecessary sickness and death. Likewise, the premature and rushed reopening of schools and football in the coming weeks would create unnecessary sickness and death this fall.

I liked what Davis School District just did.Jordan screwed the pooch. And I support UEA’s demand to wait a few weeks. We shouldn’t rush to reopen because a handful of angry and irrational parents want to get high school football going.

 

[Deleted member 365]

I know. And, as mentioned above, it hasn't demonstrated to be a dip unless those numbers stay low after the lag period ends. But regarding the US testing, I'm only mentioning that because this meme of Trump talking about slowing down testing tends to side track people from adequately gauging the reality of the amount of testing that's happening. We're testing nearly a million people per day. For reference, the past ten years we've been averaging 77,000 tests per year for influenza.

You seem to be conflating two different things. National tests and Utah tests.

Testing in Utah has taken a dip this week and the week before was lower than the preceding one while test positivity has gone up and delays have increased. If this wasn’t a problem then why did the Health Department rep on the call during Jordan School District’s Board Meeting last night say so?

 

[Deleted member 365]

I think a better sign would be testing in utah being down from the beginning and middle part of July while seeing a decline in positivity rates and delays for test results decreasing.

Instead, we are seeing fewer tests given, higher positivity rates, and longer delays. Those are not good signs. Especially since school reopening are priorities and we’re woefully unprepared.

How do you as an administrator contain an outbreak in your school when it takes nearly a week just to get test results back from employees and students suspected of being sick?

 

[fishonjazz]

I know. And, as mentioned above, it hasn't demonstrated to be a dip unless those numbers stay low after the lag period ends. But regarding the US testing, I'm only mentioning that because this meme of Trump talking about slowing down testing tends to side track people from adequately gauging the reality of the amount of testing that's happening. We're testing nearly a million people per day. For reference, the past ten years we've been averaging 77,000 tests per year for influenza.

Yep you shouldn't have to mention this but, like you said, there are these memes out there cause trump shouldnt have ever brought up his point of we should test less. Trump gonna trump though.

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[infection]

You seem to be conflating two different things. National tests and Utah tests.

Testing in Utah has taken a dip this week and the week before was lower than the preceding one while test positivity has gone up and delays have increased. If this wasn’t a problem then why did the Health Department rep on the call during Jordan School District’s Board Meeting last night say so?

I'm not conflating anything. Take another look above. My first graph is specifically from the Utah Coronovirus website. I couldn't tell you why they said that, if that's what they said, because it's in conflict with the data from their official website.

 

[infection]

Instead, we are seeing fewer tests given, higher positivity rates, and longer delays. Those are not good signs.

 

[Deleted member 365]

Yep you shouldn't have to mention this but, like you said, there are these memes out there cause trump shouldnt have ever brought up his point of we should test less. Trump gonna trump though.

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Weve also seen trump threaten leaders who don’t kiss his ring. Remember him threatening governors just a few months ago by withholding aid if they weren’t “nice” to him?
We’ve also seen governors cave under pressure from Trump as well, much to the detriment of public health.

I haven’t seen a single meme about testing less. I know it makes conservatives feel better to dehumanize critics of the president by accusing them of being persuaded by memes. It’s not that. I just know that trump is the most transparent leader I’ve ever seen. We’ve seen 4 years of this. From asking Russia “if they’re listening” to asking Comey to “drop the flynn thing” to publicly “considering pardons for those who stay quiet” to law enforcement “to not be so nice” to asking Ukraine “do us a favor though” to and now to testing. when he asks to slow down the testing, I know that some governors (especially in red states) will get the hint.

we know utah‘s government sacrificed public health in May. Are they doing it again?

Politicians and Business Interests Pushed Health Officials Aside to Control Reopening. Then Cases Exploded.

Interviews and internal emails show that Utah prioritized the health of businesses over keeping coronavirus case counts down. As case counts rise, the state will now allow indoor gatherings of up to 3,000 people.

www.propublica.org