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SteakNEggs
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Have not followed this thread for a few days, but thought this might be a relevant read:
Meet the scientist at the center of the covid lab leak controversy
Shi Zhengli has spent years at the Wuhan Institute of Virology researching coronaviruses that live in bats. Her work has come under fire as the world tries to understand where covid-19 came from.www.technologyreview.com
And, FWIW, I have no idea, but there’s this virologist. Don’t be misled by headline. She’s been saying the virus was deliberately released by China, and, apparently, all over the world….
View: https://twitter.com/3sidedstory/status/1630382685653807104
As I said above right now this is nothing more than a conspiracy, but we need to figure out why Fauci adamantly wanted this theory swept under the rug and constantly lied that the NIH not studying GoF though we have proof he did. Was it because he funded this research? That's my theory but I have no definitive proof. He did literally predict this would happen under Trump somehow. But again, that's conspiracy. Unlike you guys who thought a guy on video was fake, I can admit that.
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Post-COVID Conditions
Some people experience new or ongoing symptoms lasting weeks or months.
www.cdc.gov
Not sure where the announcement is, but this is still on their website.
You're still missing the blatantly obvious. The CIA has not released an opinion on the origin of the outbreak, nor has the NSA; those have an opinion give it "low confidence" (little better than a guess). The NIH has affirmed the virus is a wild virus. Maybe a wild virus leaked from a lab, maybe not.
I didn't see this story. The CDC still had their usual long covid page up. Where did you hear this?
Post-COVID Conditions
Some people experience new or ongoing symptoms lasting weeks or months.
www.cdc.gov
There are human preparations and horse reparations of ivermectin, as I'm sure you know. You may not be aware that humans started buying the horse preparation for human use (it was apparently widely available at feed stores, or something). They were literally buying horse dewormer.
I always try to keep my understandings flexible, though sometimes I fall short.
Red
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I didn’t see it. I forgot to add c/s. I was hoping my sarcasm was clear enough, I guess, and I was busting someone’s agates for not answering a question I directed to him in a different thread, involving young people and Long Covid.I didn't see this story. The CDC still had their usual long covid page up. Where did you hear this?
Post-COVID Conditions
Some people experience new or ongoing symptoms lasting weeks or months.
SteakNEggs
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Lol only true idiots bought the horse dewormer and that's natural selection. Quit lying though as the Joe Rogan was bullied and almost canceled for talking about the actual drug. Democrats and CNN lied that it was horse dewormer as their only narrative was to push the vaccine not actually listen or allow others to make their own choices. It was vaccine or nothing.
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Red
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Sorry. Should have added c/s. I guess my sarcasm is more deceptive than I thought.Post-COVID Conditions
Some people experience new or ongoing symptoms lasting weeks or months.
Not sure where the announcement is, but this is still on their website.
Seriously, my apology to anyone who actually sought clarification for that post. Of course Long Covid exists…
Red
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I’m sorry to hear it, lots of chronic issues seem to result from a bout of Covid. Hope it resolves itself for you eventually.
SteakNEggs
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Yup... This all because Democrats couldn't stand Trump being right. I mean why else would the guys triggered by John Stockton so adamantly try to hide this? There's no other reason really. This was all part of the lefts lunatic obsession with Trump.
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Red
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I’m thinking I might have a future writing fake news!
You're doing your usual whine about the actions of one poster, and pretending they are supported by some large group.
There are five federal agencies that say it was a natural, with low confidence. There are two that say lab leak, with low confidence. That means everyone's guessing, but the numbers are against your position right now.
That's not why people dislike you.
Perhaps you should stop ignoring the people willing to converse with you. To be fair, that would give you one less excuse for whining.
How?
Every large group has bullies. Dishonest people pretend they are the only members of the group.
John Stewart is worth taking seriously. Bill Maher is not. In the clip you offer, Stewart condemns your own behavior. I sense no indication you are self-aware enough to realize that when he criticizes the extreme reactions, he's talking about you.
gandalfe
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I think there were also 2 that investigated it and said, "We don't know" and 9 that haven't issued any reports.
Personally, I think investigating if it may have leaked from the lab is worth investigating, but it doesn't change much except maybe lab safety procedures. However, even if it is conclusively proven that it did leak from the lab, that is a long way from saying it was CREATED in the lab. There is, as far as I know, no suspicion among serious people that it may be man made.
SteakNEggs
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It leaked from a lab but it wasn't manmade lol. They were literally CREATING SARS viruses to infect mice that they already engineered to have human lungs.
Wuhan CREATED more dangerous virus than Covid-19 one': Researcher Yuri Deigin
A/ We know that WIV (Wuhan Institute of Virology), together with EcoHealth, has been working on gain-of-function into MERS and they were creating chimeras with funding from the NIH (National Institutes of Health, US). This is all documented. [Usually] they created chimeras by taking the MERS full virus and replacing its spikes with those from the HKU4 virus. But the HKU4 spike is not as good at binding with human receptors as the MERS virus is. What we found is the opposite―they took the backbone (main chain of a polymer) of the HKU4 and replaced the spike with the MERS spike, which is much better at binding with human receptors. So, it could be potentially dangerous if this virus escapes.
There was this argument that, if SARS-CoV-2 was to be engineered, they would have used one of the known reverse genetic systems (used to modify genes). Even at the time it was a weak argument, but now we know that there were unpublished coronavirus reverse genetic systems in use in Wuhan. So, it is completely within the realm of possibility that there was one built around the progenitor of SARS-CoV-2.
Our [recent] preprint conclusively shows that there were reverse genetic systems in use in Wuhan that have still not been published. So, who knows how many more unpublished backbones they had in use at the time. The WIV also boasted that they had thousands of viral samples in their private database, which means they could have had many different backbones on which they were working at a time.
'Wuhan created more dangerous virus than Covid-19 one': Researcher Yuri Deigin
Deigin claims Covid virus did not come from a wet market
www.theweek.in
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SteakNEggs
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I educated the Dunning Kruger effects on this board about this adnasueum. Yet I was just bullied and literally called a racist by the intelligent posters here that add nothing but lying. This was known years ago and the grown adults that add nothing but calling others trolls just bullied hated and pleaded with Jason to ban me like they just did in the Russia thread. Go back and see my post about WIV and Eco Alliance being elated that they can once again study GoF.
Scientists in the U.S. and China planned to create coronavirus genomes in order to study them, leaked documents show according to experts who spoke to Newsweek.
The plan was outlined in a proposal by the U.S. research organization EcoHealth Alliance to the U.S. Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA), which was leaked in September by a group of online researchers and correspondents known as the Decentralized Radical Autonomous Search Team Investigating COVID-19 (DRASTIC). The documents could not be verified by Newsweek.
EcoHealth Alliance has been under scrutiny in recent months due to its work with the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV), a facility in the Chinese city of Wuhan that was the original epicenter of the COVID pandemic and where researchers study bat viruses. This research has placed it at the center of COVID lab leak theories.
www.newsweek.com
Wuhan, U.S. Scientists Planned to Make Coronaviruses, Documents Leaked by DRASTIC Show
Scientists in the U.S. and China planned to create coronavirus genomes in order to study them, leaked documents show according to experts who spoke to Newsweek.
The plan was outlined in a proposal by the U.S. research organization EcoHealth Alliance to the U.S. Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA), which was leaked in September by a group of online researchers and correspondents known as the Decentralized Radical Autonomous Search Team Investigating COVID-19 (DRASTIC). The documents could not be verified by Newsweek.
EcoHealth Alliance has been under scrutiny in recent months due to its work with the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV), a facility in the Chinese city of Wuhan that was the original epicenter of the COVID pandemic and where researchers study bat viruses. This research has placed it at the center of COVID lab leak theories.
Wuhan, U.S. Scientists Planned to Make Coronaviruses, Leaked Documents Show
Research proposed to a U.S. defense agency by EcoHealth Alliance, which would have involved the Wuhan Institute of Virology, has emerged amid the COVID lab leak debate.
www.newsweek.com
SteakNEggs
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I'm a supposed troll educating the guys that call others trolls yet add nothing but one sentence lies.
The origin of the SARS-CoV-2 virus that causes COVID-19 remains unclear, but recent revelations reinforce the likelihood that the true source was a lab leak from the Wuhan Institute of Virology.
A letter from Lawrence Tabak, the National Institutes of Health’s principal deputy director, to Rep. James Comer (R-Ky.) confirms that the NIH funded research at the WIV during 2018-2019 that manipulated a bat coronavirus called WIV1. Researchers at the institute grafted spike proteins from other coronaviruses onto WIV1 to see if the modified virus was capable of binding in a mouse that possessed the ACE2 receptors found in humans — the same receptor to which SARS-CoV-2 binds. The modified virus reproduced more rapidly and made infected humanized mice sicker than the unmodified virus.
Starting in 2014, the NIH’s National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, headed by Dr. Anthony Fauci, funded the New York-based research nonprofit EcoHealth Alliance with annual grants through 2020 for “Understanding the Risk of Bat Coronavirus Emergence.”
nypost.com
The origin of the SARS-CoV-2 virus that causes COVID-19 remains unclear, but recent revelations reinforce the likelihood that the true source was a lab leak from the Wuhan Institute of Virology.
A letter from Lawrence Tabak, the National Institutes of Health’s principal deputy director, to Rep. James Comer (R-Ky.) confirms that the NIH funded research at the WIV during 2018-2019 that manipulated a bat coronavirus called WIV1. Researchers at the institute grafted spike proteins from other coronaviruses onto WIV1 to see if the modified virus was capable of binding in a mouse that possessed the ACE2 receptors found in humans — the same receptor to which SARS-CoV-2 binds. The modified virus reproduced more rapidly and made infected humanized mice sicker than the unmodified virus.
Starting in 2014, the NIH’s National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, headed by Dr. Anthony Fauci, funded the New York-based research nonprofit EcoHealth Alliance with annual grants through 2020 for “Understanding the Risk of Bat Coronavirus Emergence.”
Letter confirms Wuhan lab’s COVID-19 leak was funded by US taxpayers
A letter from the National Institutes of Health, who are led by Anthony Fauci, suggests COVID-19 was man-made from multiple varients of coronavirus — all on the US taxpayer’s dime, Dr. Joel Z…
nypost.com
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It wasn't man-made. The virus has been sequenced. We know the markers involved in gene sequencing. Covid19 doesn't have them.
We know them, even if they are unpublished. You seriously think China has some scientific advances we don't know about?