Coronavirus

[Al-O-Meter]

The homage here to the great YouTube channel JCS is evident.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vU3GHwwzNRk

 

[SteakNEggs]

Actually the gullible blamed a pangolin with absolutely no evidence at all. The same low IQ guys that hate "Jon" Stockton over nothing blamed a f* pangolin lololololol. A pangolin 700 feet from a lab studying bat to human sars transmission. I don't understand how people lacked such easy and kindergarten level basic common sense but again, we all know the party of fascism lied about the original to blame Trump. It was intentional. The party of death and child mutilation. They are addicts. They rather let millions die than admit it came from a lab just to get rid of Trump. Sad thing it didn't work as these bozos are still obsessing about Trump almost 3 year later even though he's not hurting anyone but their own little fragile selves.

 

[One Brow]

The homage here to the great YouTube channel JCS is evident.

Was this supposed to be funny?

 

[LogGrad98]

Can someone explain why we are so hung up on where the virus came from? Who stands to benefit if it came from a lab instead of from a meat market? What difference does it make in deaths or treatment if it came from a lab instead of the wild? Is the only implication in the conspiracy theory that it was released fully on purpose by Fauci because he had an evil plan to become the world's scapegoat and Trump's whipping boy for 2 years, because that made him, uh, more rich or something? Weird plan tbh.

We know that virology is happening all over the place, in most every developed nation, all the time. They are fiddling with viruses that could kill swaths of humans, in the efforts to better understand them to more quickly bring remedies to bear when needed. They are also studying super-bacteria to find out how we can keep killing them as they are becoming more and more antibiotic-resistant. Frankly a strong antibiotic-resistant bacteria scares me more than a virus as our bodies tend to handle viruses better overall. I have had the flu for 2 weeks, and COVID for a week, but then I had a raging sinus infection for 4 straight months that almost resulted in them drilling into my sinus to relieve the pressure and allow it to drain in the hopes of stopping the bacteria causing it, because antibiotics were doing nothing. So the threat of something escaping a lab is real and is a risk we take in the efforts to better understand and treat these things when and if they do rise up. But it is also incredibly, incredibly, nearly impossibly rare. In fact can anyone point out a single time a virus got out of a lab and caused any of an epidemic, let alone a pandemic? You know, one that has been PROVEN to have originated in a lab. Not just speculation.

But frankly, the vast majority of deadly diseases are fully natural in origin. The spanish flu was the flu. From DNA research into COVID they did not see the marking of an engineered virus. Even if it did escape from a lab it was likely a normal strain of that particular virus that was carried out somewhere. No one released it on purpose. Get real. Whenever these things are brought up, I always ask "but why?" and mostly the answers are some vague **** about people controlling our lives and don't you know the gubmint lies to you about every ****ing thing?!?!?!11! No one can articulate the supposed benefit to anyone at all for something like this, well for most all conspiracies period.

So again, why does it matter?

 

[Bucknutz]

Can someone explain why we are so hung up on where the virus came from? Who stands to benefit if it came from a lab instead of from a meat market? What difference does it make in deaths or treatment if it came from a lab instead of the wild? Is the only implication in the conspiracy theory that it was released fully on purpose by Fauci because he had an evil plan to become the world's scapegoat and Trump's whipping boy for 2 years, because that made him, uh, more rich or something? Weird plan tbh.

We know that virology is happening all over the place, in most every developed nation, all the time. They are fiddling with viruses that could kill swaths of humans, in the efforts to better understand them to more quickly bring remedies to bear when needed. They are also studying super-bacteria to find out how we can keep killing them as they are becoming more and more antibiotic-resistant. Frankly a strong antibiotic-resistant bacteria scares me more than a virus as our bodies tend to handle viruses better overall. I have had the flu for 2 weeks, and COVID for a week, but then I had a raging sinus infection for 4 straight months that almost resulted in them drilling into my sinus to relieve the pressure and allow it to drain in the hopes of stopping the bacteria causing it, because antibiotics were doing nothing. So the threat of something escaping a lab is real and is a risk we take in the efforts to better understand and treat these things when and if they do rise up. But it is also incredibly, incredibly, nearly impossibly rare. In fact can anyone point out a single time a virus got out of a lab and caused any of an epidemic, let alone a pandemic? You know, one that has been PROVEN to have originated in a lab. Not just speculation.

But frankly, the vast majority of deadly diseases are fully natural in origin. The spanish flu was the flu. From DNA research into COVID they did not see the marking of an engineered virus. Even if it did escape from a lab it was likely a normal strain of that particular virus that was carried out somewhere. No one released it on purpose. Get real. Whenever these things are brought up, I always ask "but why?" and mostly the answers are some vague **** about people controlling our lives and don't you know the gubmint lies to you about every ****ing thing?!?!?!11! No one can articulate the supposed benefit to anyone at all for something like this, well for most all conspiracies period.

So again, why does it matter?

This makes me happy. Everyone is in agreement to find out where it came from!

View: https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1634218383808888833?s=20

 

[LogGrad98]

This makes me happy. Everyone is in agreement to find out where it came from!

View: https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1634218383808888833?s=20

I am all for more transparency in government, so this is very good.

Still doesn't answer why it matters.

 

[SteakNEggs]

Can someone explain why we are so hung up on where the virus came from? Who stands to benefit if it came from a lab instead of from a meat market? What difference does it make in deaths or treatment if it came from a lab instead of the wild? Is the only implication in the conspiracy theory that it was released fully on purpose by Fauci because he had an evil plan to become the world's scapegoat and Trump's whipping boy for 2 years, because that made him, uh, more rich or something? Weird plan tbh.

We know that virology is happening all over the place, in most every developed nation, all the time. They are fiddling with viruses that could kill swaths of humans, in the efforts to better understand them to more quickly bring remedies to bear when needed. They are also studying super-bacteria to find out how we can keep killing them as they are becoming more and more antibiotic-resistant. Frankly a strong antibiotic-resistant bacteria scares me more than a virus as our bodies tend to handle viruses better overall. I have had the flu for 2 weeks, and COVID for a week, but then I had a raging sinus infection for 4 straight months that almost resulted in them drilling into my sinus to relieve the pressure and allow it to drain in the hopes of stopping the bacteria causing it, because antibiotics were doing nothing. So the threat of something escaping a lab is real and is a risk we take in the efforts to better understand and treat these things when and if they do rise up. But it is also incredibly, incredibly, nearly impossibly rare. In fact can anyone point out a single time a virus got out of a lab and caused any of an epidemic, let alone a pandemic? You know, one that has been PROVEN to have originated in a lab. Not just speculation.

But frankly, the vast majority of deadly diseases are fully natural in origin. The spanish flu was the flu. From DNA research into COVID they did not see the marking of an engineered virus. Even if it did escape from a lab it was likely a normal strain of that particular virus that was carried out somewhere. No one released it on purpose. Get real. Whenever these things are brought up, I always ask "but why?" and mostly the answers are some vague **** about people controlling our lives and don't you know the gubmint lies to you about every ****ing thing?!?!?!11! No one can articulate the supposed benefit to anyone at all for something like this, well for most all conspiracies period.

So again, why does it matter?

I've explained it and articulated this ad nauseum for years around here... You and the bully mob are just too busy telling me how stupid I am than actually listening. You guys would rather circle jerk each other and bully than actually listen. It's actually embarrassing that you don't understand the importance behind America funding this research then lying and censoring people who tried to stop it. Fauci lying and we now have emails that he coerced doctors with a 9 million dollar payment to cover his ***.

Can you explain why you all bullied me when I educated you on this years ago? Saying it didn't and bullying anybody who was right.

 

[Bucknutz]

Can someone explain why we are so hung up on where the virus came from? Who stands to benefit if it came from a lab instead of from a meat market? What difference does it make in deaths or treatment if it came from a lab instead of the wild? Is the only implication in the conspiracy theory that it was released fully on purpose by Fauci because he had an evil plan to become the world's scapegoat and Trump's whipping boy for 2 years, because that made him, uh, more rich or something? Weird plan tbh.

We know that virology is happening all over the place, in most every developed nation, all the time. They are fiddling with viruses that could kill swaths of humans, in the efforts to better understand them to more quickly bring remedies to bear when needed. They are also studying super-bacteria to find out how we can keep killing them as they are becoming more and more antibiotic-resistant. Frankly a strong antibiotic-resistant bacteria scares me more than a virus as our bodies tend to handle viruses better overall. I have had the flu for 2 weeks, and COVID for a week, but then I had a raging sinus infection for 4 straight months that almost resulted in them drilling into my sinus to relieve the pressure and allow it to drain in the hopes of stopping the bacteria causing it, because antibiotics were doing nothing. So the threat of something escaping a lab is real and is a risk we take in the efforts to better understand and treat these things when and if they do rise up. But it is also incredibly, incredibly, nearly impossibly rare. In fact can anyone point out a single time a virus got out of a lab and caused any of an epidemic, let alone a pandemic? You know, one that has been PROVEN to have originated in a lab. Not just speculation.

But frankly, the vast majority of deadly diseases are fully natural in origin. The spanish flu was the flu. From DNA research into COVID they did not see the marking of an engineered virus. Even if it did escape from a lab it was likely a normal strain of that particular virus that was carried out somewhere. No one released it on purpose. Get real. Whenever these things are brought up, I always ask "but why?" and mostly the answers are some vague **** about people controlling our lives and don't you know the gubmint lies to you about every ****ing thing?!?!?!11! No one can articulate the supposed benefit to anyone at all for something like this, well for most all conspiracies period.

So again, why does it matter?

The reason it matters to me, I have made very clear, is that Government, Media, Family, Forum Posters tried to silence people who had a different opinion, conversation, and thoughts about the matter. There was no healthy discussion about the origins. People on one side just called the others "Wrong", "Conspiracy Theorist" or just made fun of them, because one person said so...


Even though 5 days earlier...

Intelligence Community Statement on Origins of COVID-19

NEWS RELEASE FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE ODNI News Release No. 11-20 April 30, 2020 Intelligence Community Statement on Origins of COVID-19 WA...

www.dni.gov

"The IC will continue to rigorously examine emerging information and intelligence to determine whether the outbreak began through contact with infected animals or if it was the result of an accident at a laboratory in Wuhan."

If you said this on social media such as FB, YT, Twitter, You were fact checked, flagged and censored by "fact checkers".

Lets take a look at JF posters did to 1 person who brought up 1 report stating it could have came from a lab...







Even in this little political forum on a Utah Jazz Board people were called Conspiracy Theorists for sharing a study.

People are so dismissive of someone else's ideas, with no facts of their own, because it goes against their thoughts or beliefs.

That's why it matters to me. Communication and Information being shut down by people, business or government because they want others to believe their "truth".



As for why where Covid came from matters to me - if we find out it was deliberately leaked. If it was nature or it escaped from the lab without help, then it really doesn't matter to me.

 

[fishonjazz]

Can someone explain why we are so hung up on where the virus came from? Who stands to benefit if it came from a lab instead of from a meat market? What difference does it make in deaths or treatment if it came from a lab instead of the wild? Is the only implication in the conspiracy theory that it was released fully on purpose by Fauci because he had an evil plan to become the world's scapegoat and Trump's whipping boy for 2 years, because that made him, uh, more rich or something? Weird plan tbh.

We know that virology is happening all over the place, in most every developed nation, all the time. They are fiddling with viruses that could kill swaths of humans, in the efforts to better understand them to more quickly bring remedies to bear when needed. They are also studying super-bacteria to find out how we can keep killing them as they are becoming more and more antibiotic-resistant. Frankly a strong antibiotic-resistant bacteria scares me more than a virus as our bodies tend to handle viruses better overall. I have had the flu for 2 weeks, and COVID for a week, but then I had a raging sinus infection for 4 straight months that almost resulted in them drilling into my sinus to relieve the pressure and allow it to drain in the hopes of stopping the bacteria causing it, because antibiotics were doing nothing. So the threat of something escaping a lab is real and is a risk we take in the efforts to better understand and treat these things when and if they do rise up. But it is also incredibly, incredibly, nearly impossibly rare. In fact can anyone point out a single time a virus got out of a lab and caused any of an epidemic, let alone a pandemic? You know, one that has been PROVEN to have originated in a lab. Not just speculation.

But frankly, the vast majority of deadly diseases are fully natural in origin. The spanish flu was the flu. From DNA research into COVID they did not see the marking of an engineered virus. Even if it did escape from a lab it was likely a normal strain of that particular virus that was carried out somewhere. No one released it on purpose. Get real. Whenever these things are brought up, I always ask "but why?" and mostly the answers are some vague **** about people controlling our lives and don't you know the gubmint lies to you about every ****ing thing?!?!?!11! No one can articulate the supposed benefit to anyone at all for something like this, well for most all conspiracies period.

So again, why does it matter?

Lets say we find out that it came from a chinese lab and they released it on purpose. What do we do? Do we go to war with them and watch billions die? Yay for the warmongers I guess but I think that would suck. Do we do nothing at all? Do we impose economic sanctions that would hurt our own citizens?

 

[SteakNEggs]

Lets say we find out that it came from a chinese lab and they released it on purpose. What do we do? Do we go to war with them and watch billions die? Yay for the warmongers I guess but I think that would suck. Do we do nothing at all? Do we impose economic sanctions that would hurt our own citizens?

Personally I'd like to see Fauci and his corrupt counterparts in jail and from the fascist pigs that bullied people, literally protecting China because they are Trump addicts and would rather people die than blame China to hurt Trump a simple apology would be nice. Fish... Red... Thriller... Gameface... Log... Gandalfe...and the OB the pl. I won't hold my breath as you guys were hateful over nothing so why would you have the human decency to apologize if you acted like you all did.

 

[Gameface]

The reason it matters to me, I have made very clear, is that Government, Media, Family, Forum Posters tried to silence people who had a different opinion, conversation, and thoughts about the matter. There was no healthy discussion about the origins. People on one side just called the others "Wrong", "Conspiracy Theorist" or just made fun of them, because one person said so...
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Even though 5 days earlier...

Intelligence Community Statement on Origins of COVID-19

NEWS RELEASE FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE ODNI News Release No. 11-20 April 30, 2020 Intelligence Community Statement on Origins of COVID-19 WA...

www.dni.gov

"The IC will continue to rigorously examine emerging information and intelligence to determine whether the outbreak began through contact with infected animals or if it was the result of an accident at a laboratory in Wuhan."

If you said this on social media such as FB, YT, Twitter, You were fact checked, flagged and censored by "fact checkers".

Lets take a look at JF posters did to 1 person who brought up 1 report stating it could have came from a lab...
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Even in this little political forum on a Utah Jazz Board people were called Conspiracy Theorists for sharing a study.

People are so dismissive of someone else's ideas, with no facts of their own, because it goes against their thoughts or beliefs.

That's why it matters to me. Communication and Information being shut down by people, business or government because they want others to believe their "truth".



As for why where Covid came from matters to me - if we find out it was deliberately leaked. If it was nature or it escaped from the lab without help, then it really doesn't matter to me.

I'd like to clarify something. When I say that seconds after the news of an outbreak broke there were unfounded conspiracies, I'm talking about people wildly speculating literally seconds after the new broke. Not people actually putting in the work to gather actual information.

If you heard news of the outbreak and instantly convinced yourself of a cheesy Hollywood movie plot then it doesn't make you smart or right if down the road some semi-similar version of your unfounded speculation turns out to be true.

 

[SteakNEggs]

I'd like to clarify something. When I say that seconds after the news of an outbreak broke there were unfounded conspiracies, I'm talking about people wildly speculating literally seconds after the new broke. Not people actually putting in the work to gather actual information.

If you heard news of the outbreak and instantly convinced yourself of a cheesy Hollywood movie plot then it doesn't make you smart or right if down the road some semi-similar version of your unfounded speculation turns out to be true.

Or just cowardly backtrack and deny it.