Derrick Favors was the best defender in the league last season...

[One Brow]

I think any all encompassing defensive statistic that puts Favors/Mitchell Robinson/Jones Jr/Nurkic/Kleber as a top 5 list is a flawed statistic.

It doesn't claim to be all-encompassing, just looking at another aspect of defense (getting your opponent to miss his shot). Some might even say it's important.

 

[Hotdog]

I bet we will miss Favors more than people anticipate.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I bet we will miss Favors more than people anticipate.

I think this is pretty much the peak of missing him unless Gobert misses a ton of games.

 

[Goodluckchuck]

I think this is pretty much the peak of missing him unless Gobert misses a ton of games.

Or plays against heavier centers.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Or plays against heavier centers.

Ehh, nah. Gobert was the better defender against traditional bigs.

 

[idiot]

Listen we were better with Jae on the floor than Favors.

Not true in 2018-19. According to B-ball reference:
Favors: +5.1 plus-minus when on court / 100 possessions, +0.1 net plus-minus / 100 possessions
Crowder: +4.1, -2.8 respectively

 

[idiot]

I think this is pretty much the peak of missing him unless Gobert misses a ton of games.

Probably true, but mainly because of Ed Davis. If we got some run-of-the-mill backup center instead, it's probably a different story.

 

[Sandman822]

It doesn't claim to be all-encompassing, just looking at another aspect of defense (getting your opponent to miss his shot). Some might even say it's important.

That's literally the purpose of playing defense though lol, followed by if they're going to make a shot lets make sure it's not a high value shot (e.g. long 2s).

 

[One Brow]

That's literally the purpose of playing defense though lol, followed by if they're going to make a shot lets make sure it's not a high value shot (e.g. long 2s).

More traditional metrics factor in things like steal, rebounds, blocks, deflections. They are all part of defense.

 

[Miggs]

Not true in 2018-19. According to B-ball reference:
Favors: +5.1 plus-minus when on court / 100 possessions, +0.1 net plus-minus / 100 possessions
Crowder: +4.1, -2.8 respectively

That’s with Gobert?

 

[idiot]

Nope: you hadn't qualified it that way in the original statement.

It's true that Favors wasn't the best PF match for Gobert. (In fact, he was the worst, though the Jazz still had a solid +/- with him and Gobert together.)

 

[Miggs]

Nope: you hadn't qualified it that way in the original statement.

It's true that Favors wasn't the best PF match for Gobert. (In fact, he was the worst, though the Jazz still had a solid +/- with him and Gobert together.)

Sort of thought it was obvious but fair enough.