Don/Rudy ESPN Article

[Handlogten's Heros]

Give this interview a listen... I think the organization gets an F on handling this too. No one wanted to piss off Don. Not super impressed with DL and crew this year.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Give this interview a listen... I think the organization gets an F on handling this too. No one wanted to piss off Don. Not super impressed with DL and crew this year.

Listen to the full... not the short one

 

[oneye]

What Tim also mentions during that interview is he wanted to release the story a long time ago but Donovan was refusing to give any sort of comment on it so he didn’t put the finishing touches on it until Donovan finally spoke last Friday so that he at least had some sort of comment from him for the article. So it looks as though me blaming Rudy for rehashing this was wrong. Tim had been putting this story together for a long time and didn’t want to release it until Donovan spoke so he could put the final touches on it. So again.....Donovan let this drag out way farther than it needed to.

 

[oneye]

Full interview link here https://espn700sports.com/interview...hip-between-rudy-gobert-and-donovan-mitchell/

 

[LoPo]

You’re right it’s not about sides. Both are to blame and only one is taking responsibility for it. Donovan is receiving more criticism because he’s been a closed book and is starting to look like a snake finding a way to rack up excuses and plant seeds to leave. That’s the issue here. There’s blame to go around, no one is specifically to blame.

Also Tim MacMahon: “it was on a scale of 2 out of 10 tension before Covid hit. That was Rudy’s fault. Whatever it’s raised to now, is Donovan’s fault”

Also, Tim a month or so ago said he felt Donovan wanted to be here. Today on radio we’ve reached the point of“there is speculation around the league that Donovan and his team may be using this to plant seeds to leave”.

In regards to Rudy: “Rudy made it very clear to me he wants to be in Utah, the Jazz want him in Utah” and that he doesn’t know exactly what Rudy expects in regards to a contract but he wouldn’t be surprised if they could come to an agreement far south of the super max to keep him in Utah.

Idk, you see the stark differences here as to why fans may not feel real warm towards Donovan in some ways right now vs Rudy?

"Donovan is receiving more criticism because he’s been a closed book and is starting to look like a snake finding a way to rack up excuses and plant seeds to leave."

That's exactly what I'm talking about. There is no proof of this. You and Tim and others are simply talking out of their collective asses.

How many times must Donovan say he's ready to go back to work? Must he publicly send Rudy flowers to make you happy? "League sources" don't mean anything.

Donovan has the right to be a closed book. His teammate acted like a moron and probably gave him the same pandemic disease that is scary enough to keep Ariza, Avery Bradley and others away during the restart. If Donovan eventually leaves, it's because moron Jazz fans either blindly take Rudy's side or ignorantly defend racism. Everybody needs to stop stirring the pot....

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[Jazzmix]

Some of you claim that Donovan is immature and side with Rudy. Maybe he is but I think Rudy is definitely immature as well. He behaved like a teenage clown touching those microphones at the press conference and cried in public about all star snub.

 

[Bawse Dawg]

I can’t believe that just over two years ago we were watching rookie Mitchell score 40 on OKC’s ‘big three’ in the clinching playoff game. The future had never been brighter.

Sports is evil.

 

[JazzyFresh]

As I've said before theres a person or two that I work with that I don't necessarily care for and probably visa versa. When I/we show up for work though we are professional and get a long just fine.

I don't know either enough to make claims of immaturity but if they bring their drama to work then maybe I can. It's part of being an adult.

 

[Archie Moses]

I ****ing love Rudy.

He's a better man than LaMarcus Aldridge.

 

[JimLes]

Hopefully the front office still remembers the lessons we all learned from the Kirilenko/Williams fiasco.

1. Impact on the game is more important than how many jerseys a player sells.
2. An asshat is an asshat. You could give him the keys to the team, and he'll still leave because he's an asshat.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Hopefully the front office still remembers the lessons we all learned from the Kirilenko/Williams fiasco.

1. Impact on the game is more important than how many jerseys a player sells.
2. An asshat is an asshat. You could give him the keys to the team, and he'll still leave because he's an asshat.

Neither guy is an asshat and both guys are more committed to winning than AK was. Honestly I think if we were to remove Mike after the season then the touches would work itself out. I think this can be salvaged if the contract stuff is smoothed over.

Listening to the Tim M. interview I posted above and it sounds like the friction pre-covid was mostly Rudy's fault and he'd admit it. I think he will change a bit. Rudy being left out in the wind by the organization and stonewalled by DM was rough. Hopefully DM sees how he could have handled it differently and is willing to smooth things over.

I don't want this to be a Shaq/Kobe, LMA/Dame, etc. where they say they should have stayed together years later. The organization has some work to do. Every addition we make needs to be with these cornerstones in mind. Adding a somewhat ball dominant pg who is also small was a step in the wrong direction. Don't make moves that compromise what we can get out of DM and Rudy.

 

[infection]

Neither guy is an asshat and both guys are more committed to winning than AK was. Honestly I think if we were to remove Mike after the season then the touches would work itself out. I think this can be salvaged if the contract stuff is smoothed over.

Listening to the Tim M. interview I posted above and it sounds like the friction pre-covid was mostly Rudy's fault and he'd admit it. I think he will change a bit. Rudy being left out in the wind by the organization and stonewalled by DM was rough. Hopefully DM sees how he could have handled it differently and is willing to smooth things over.

I don't want this to be a Shaq/Kobe, LMA/Dame, etc. where they say they should have stayed together years later. The organization has some work to do. Every addition we make needs to be with these cornerstones in mind. Adding a somewhat ball dominant pg who is also small was a step in the wrong direction. Don't make moves that compromise what we can get out of DM and Rudy.

A couple things:

1. I think perhaps he was referring to DWill rather than AK (not that I agree).
2. The Conley thing is interesting. Overall, I supported it at the time because we needed to do something. However, we were in that situation precisely because of DL's preoccupation with "keeping the powder dry." It's like how I recently had to cancel a trip to the UK and, instead of a refund, I just got credit to use on United. I have two years to use the credit before it expires. I could wait for the right deal to come along, not like anything I see, or not find any deals to the UK that are as good as I originally got, but if I continue to be that rigid and wait long enough, eventually a weekend trip to Phoenix is going to be looking like a good deal when I compare that to it expiring and getting nothing.