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Donovan is averaging 0.4 less RPG and 0.7 less APG in 3 more MPG.

The only difference in his game this year is he’s more efficient. He’s down in almost every other category besides FG%, 3PT%, and PPG.

He’s only 26 so it isn’t a huge surprise that he is better efficiency wise the older he gets.


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Donovan is averaging 0.4 less RPG and 0.7 less APG in 3 more MPG.

The only difference in his game this year is he’s more efficient. He’s down in almost every other category besides FG%, 3PT%, and PPG.

He’s only 26 so it isn’t a huge surprise that he is better efficiency wise the older he gets.
Also, the question is if he needed a change of scenery to achieve that efficiency.

I think the last two years had bogged down the Don/Rudy relationship and brought negativity to the whole locker room.

I was a fan of Quin Snyder, but looking at the success of all of our traded players elsewhere. . . coaching and managing the locker room has to be considered one of the main reasons the Jazz fell short in the playoffs.

Something was broken in Utah and it’s clear that everyone is thriving now that the divorce(s) are finalized.
 
Donovan is averaging 0.4 less RPG and 0.7 less APG in 3 more MPG.

The only difference in his game this year is he’s more efficient. He’s down in almost every other category besides FG%, 3PT%, and PPG.

He’s only 26 so it isn’t a huge surprise that he is better efficiency wise the older he gets.


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There is another difference. He is an mvp candidate.
The stats you mentioned that are worse this year are a tiny bit worse. The stats that are better are a huge increase and all career highs.

I appreciate you trying to make us all feel better though.


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Mitchell seems to be in a very good situation with the team and players around him. I'm guessing he's even happy he's not in NY right now. It's a pretty inspiring story for what many considered an undersized player who wasn't highly regarded in college to be doing what he's doing. It's just too bad he didn't want to do it here. That said, I think much of what has been mentioned above is the reason. I'd have really liked to see how Hardy would have affected his attitude but I'm also extremely happy we received Lauri in the trade.
 
There is another difference. He is an mvp candidate.
The stats you mentioned that are worse this year are a tiny bit worse. The stats that are better are a huge increase and all career highs.

I appreciate you trying to make us all feel better though.


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He is definitely not a MVP candidate. He’d end up like 10th if the voting was today.
 
I would wait untill the end of season with analysing Donovan's numbers and making conclusions. He had those months when he looked like a mvp candidate here too.
 
Yep he has a legit chance at the league mvp.


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Id say just about as legit as he had here at this point of the season. In fact, last year Dec 24th he was ranked 8th by NBA.com... yesterdays ladder ranked him in the 11-15 range.

Dribble and score guard latest MVP reference points were Russ with triple-double average and Harden with his ridiculous iso scoring year. Don isnt flashy like them.

Dominant bigs are the current MVP trend. Suns had the best record by 8 games last year and Booker was barely mentioned.
 
He is definitely not a MVP candidate. He’d end up like 10th if the voting was today.
Somewhat agreed he won't win it or even get much consideration most of this season, but the usage issues in Cleveland are bigger than him getting usage anyway , and he has less usage but not much less than here. I think taking the ball out of Garlands hands, has not helped the bigs there at all, despite getting so much scoring from Don. Allen is not getting the touches he got at all last season from Garland and is an after-thought for Don. just on observation.
Overall that team is on the rise, but I would not be at all surprised if the backcourt is blown up, as soon as next seasons deadline, if they didn't go deep in the playoffs this season. I expect the others on the roster that shared the wealth of accolades and love, won't be getting much anymore, including Garland although it won't matter for him since he is paid a ransom. I don't expect Garland to make another all star game besides as an injury replacement, as long as Don is there either. I don't think the Cavs front office had any idea what they had in the Finnisher, or they would have featured him more than never, and not had to give up so many picks in the summer deal.
 
Id say just about as legit as he had here at this point of the season. In fact, last year Dec 24th he was ranked 8th by NBA.com... yesterdays ladder ranked him in the 11-15 range.

Dribble and score guard latest MVP reference points were Russ with triple-double average and Harden with his ridiculous iso scoring year. Don isnt flashy like them.

Dominant bigs are the current MVP trend. Suns had the best record by 8 games last year and Booker was barely mentioned.
I say the only true mvps choices if they stay healthy this season are Ja,Luka and Tatum and in that order. Sure you cannot count out Joker or Freak or even sleepers like KD again or Don if the Cavs finish with league best record or something, but its gotta be one of those first three if the season ended today.
I actually like Embiid this season if I thought he could stay healthy, but he can't. Curry is out of it, Lebron and AD are out with so much losing. Kawhi isn't even worth mentioning never being healthy.
If you had to pick a late riser dark horse, that has the stats, the team wins, but remains out of the conversation,because nobody thinks he can stay on the court ,it has to be none other than Zion
 
Donovan is taking it to another level! Markkannen is great but not that good.
Of course Marky aint Don, but there is no way the Cavs don't regret giving up Sexton, Marky, Ochai, and a million picks for him. Especially now that they can see how much it is hurting Garlands game,and the bigs, taking him off ball and handing Don the keys. Maybe if they had not just gave him the bag, but they definitely have too many eggs in one basket out there giving up all those draft picks.
I am starting to like our chances of some of those futures being really good picks for us.
 
I say the only true mvps choices if they stay healthy this season are Ja,Luka and Tatum and in that order. Sure you cannot count out Joker or Freak or even sleepers like KD again or Don if the Cavs finish with league best record or something, but its gotta be one of those first three if the season ended today.
I actually like Embiid this season if I thought he could stay healthy, but he can't. Curry is out of it, Lebron and AD are out with so much losing. Kawhi isn't even worth mentioning never being healthy.
If you had to pick a late riser dark horse, that has the stats, the team wins, but remains out of the conversation,because nobody thinks he can stay on the court ,it has to be none other than Zion
Too early to even guess who is in the conversation at the end of the season but Ja is definitely not the frontrunner right now. Tatum would likely win it hands down if the season ended today.
 
Donovan is taking it to another level! Markkannen is great but not that good.
Cleveland OffRtg up by 2.4 points from last year which is about the same as the rise of average rating of the league. So Don hasnt improved their scoring... at least not yet.

Donovan taking his stats to another level for sure but its all about the team and clutch play. While team hasnt improved offensively Don has been pretty clutch, so credit him for that.

Big reason for their record is their defense has improved from last year, which is a rarity since scoring is up. Last year Jarret Allen missed a bunch of games if I remember correct though.
 
Too early to even guess who is in the conversation at the end of the season but Ja is definitely not the frontrunner right now. Tatum would likely win it hands down if the season ended today.
your take seems to be the common perception right now stats wise so I get it, but I disagree with the idea Tatum is more valuable to his team or the league than Ja is right now. Nobody has more confidence than 12. I think he might not get the votes to win it right now, but he deserves it more.
His agressiveness might be why he continues to miss enough games, he rarely gets consideration throughout his career. But, despite his impressive season, Tatum can't be a threat to make his team better at all by comparison. When he gets playoff tested defenders matched up on him in a series, he has to be a better playmaker to be my mvp
 
Cleveland OffRtg up by 2.4 points from last year which is about the same as the rise of average rating of the league. So Don hasnt improved their scoring... at least not yet.

Donovan taking his stats to another level for sure but its all about the team and clutch play. While team hasnt improved offensively Don has been pretty clutch, so credit him for that.

Big reason for their record is their defense has improved from last year, which is a rarity since scoring is up. Last year Jarret Allen missed a bunch of games if I remember correct though.
Allen missed almost half the season, injured soon after Rubio was out for the year as well.
 
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